UPDATED: The Great Ron Paul Losertarian Anti-War Cannard

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UPDATE:  The Pink Flamingo was rather shocked when a comment on this post displayed a Ron Paul Bot’s abject lack of comprehension of the Constitution and free speech.  More importantly, this person does not comprehend the idea of “Public Domain”.  The Marine Hymn is public domain because it is formally in use as the official theme of the United States Marine Corp.  In other words – it belongs to each and every American citizen.

Further, the Ron Paul Bot in question castigated The Pink Flamingo for claiming that I own the Marine Hymn.  As an American Citizen I do own it.  So does every other American Citizen.  That is the beauty of our system.  Contrary to the voices of doom and gloom, it is We the People of the United States of America.  It is not We the Worshipers of Ron Paul. There are not two separate Constitutions.  It is getting just a little bit out of control when hot headed idiots do not comprehend that The Pink Flamingo as just as much of a right to freedom of speech as they do – and they claim to be supporters of the Constitution.

I suspect Mr. Bradley is not now a member of the US Marine Corp, nor has ever been associated with the United States Marines.  If he were, he would understand that freedom is there for us all, and not just the select.  This is really pathetic.  It also does prove my point.  We are dealing with irrational men and women who are completely out of control.  Frankly, they are starting to scare me.

ORIGINAL POST

From the Halls of Montezuma,
To the shores of Tripoli;
We fight our country’s battles
In the air, on land, and sea;
First to fight for right and freedom
And to keep our honor clean;
We are proud to claim the title
Of United States Marine.

Our flag’s unfurled to every breeze
From dawn to setting sun;
We have fought in every clime and place
Where we could take a gun;
In the snow of far-off Northern lands
And in sunny tropic scenes;
You will find us always on the job
The United States Marines.

Here’s health to you and to our Corps
Which we are proud to serve;
In many a strife we’ve fought for life
And never lost our nerve;
If the Army and the Navy
Ever look on Heaven’s scenes;
They will find the streets are guarded
By United States Marines.

The Pink Flamingo is well aware that this is not a classy way to remember 9/11, but it is necessary.  The Ron Paul Bot losertarians and the paleocons are now attacking our good Republicans who support fighting and winning the War On Terror.  They claim it is not “Constitutional”.

“…Some of the lyrics were popular phrases before the song was written. The line “To the shores of Tripoli” refer to the First Barbary War, and specifically the Battle of Derne in 1805. After Lieutenant Presley O’Bannon and his Marines hoisted the American flag over the Old World for the first time, the phrase was added to the battle colors of the Corps. “The Halls of Montezuma” refers to the Battle of Chapultepec, during the Mexican-American War, where a force of Marines stormed Chapultepec Castle.

While the words date from the 19th century, the author of the song itself is unknown. Anecdotal evidence supposes it was penned by a Marine on duty in Mexico. The unknown author transposed the phrases in the motto on the Colors so that the first two lines of the Hymn would read: “From the Halls of Montezuma, to the Shores of Tripoli,” favoring euphony over chronology….”

Losertarians like to claim they are the ones who are upholding the Constitution and following the “truths” of the Founding Fathers.  The Gospel According to Ron Paul states that our Sacred Founding Fathers did not want us to interine in wars that are not brought to our shores.

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The Ron Paul Bots like to discuss Nullification.  Please, follow the bouncing tinfoil hat:

“…With the Quasi-War, an undeclared naval war with France, underway, the Federalists under John Adams started a navy, built up the army, levied new taxes, readied for war, and enacted the Alien and Sedition Acts in 1798. Jefferson interpreted the Alien and Sedition Acts as an effort to suppress Democratic-Republicans rather than dangerous enemy aliens and, in fact, they were used to attack his party, with the most notable attacks coming from Matthew Lyon, a representative from Vermont. Jefferson and Madison rallied support by anonymously writing the Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions, which declared that the federal government had no right to exercise powers not specifically delegated to it by the states. The Resolutions meant that, should the federal government assume such powers, its acts under them could be voided by a state. The Resolutions presented the first statements of the states’ rights theory, that later led to the concepts of nullification and interposition…”

Once again the Losertarian Tea Party “patriots” are showing their abject ignorance.   Let’s have do Tea Party Losertarian History 101 especially for Ron Paul Bots like the Southern Avenger:

“…During Jefferson’s presidency many federal taxes were repealed, and he sought to rely mainly on customs revenue. He pardoned people who had been imprisoned under the Alien and Sedition Acts, passed in John Adams’ term, which Jefferson believed to be unconstitutional. He repealed the Judiciary Act of 1801 and removed many of Adams’ “midnight judges” from office, which led to the Supreme Court deciding the important case of Marbury v. Madison. He began and won the First Barbary War (1801–1805), America’s first significant overseas war, and established the United States Military Academy at West Point in 1802.

In 1803, despite his misgivings about the constitutionality of Congress’s power to buy land, Jefferson bought the Louisiana Territory from France, doubling the size of the United States. The land thus acquired amounts to 23 percent of the United States today.

In 1807, his former vice president, Aaron Burr, was tried for treason on Jefferson’s order, but was acquitted. During the trial Chief Justice John Marshall subpoenaed Jefferson, who invoked executive privilege and claimed that as president he did not need to comply. When Marshall held that the Constitution did not provide the president with any exception to the duty to obey a court order, Jefferson backed down….”

  1. Thomas Jefferson was a “Founding Father” – right?
  2. Jefferson wrote most of the Declaration of Independence
  3. Jefferson was the 3rd POTUS
  4. Jefferson – basically supported the document of the “Constitution”
  5. Jefferson sent troops to fight the first American War on Terror
  6. Ergo – Jefferson would approve of the War on Terror

The other day, the always arrogant and condescending Southern Avenger made fun of his betters – Lindsey – for supporting our military and for defending our country.  You see, The Southern Avenger is  true Ron Paul Bot.

From Global Security.Org

Global Security.Org
The Daily Paul

First – DO NOT confuse Ron Paul Bot Losertarians with Libertarian-Republicans.  I agree with Eric Dondero maybe 80% of the time – but never have I seen he nor the mainstream Dave Nalle type Libertarian-Republicans trash our military or our war effort against Al Qaeda.

Libertarian-Republican

Please note this comment by Dondero:

“…Editor’s comment – note very few if any of the AntiWar/non-interventionist wing of the libertarian movement have stepped forward to admit they were wrong all along…”

Along comes the Southern Avenger, who knows more than anyone else, especially a man like Lindsey who has actually done active duty in the War on Terror.  The Southern Avenger, who knows more than anyone else about the Constitutions and the intentions of the Founding Fathers wrote the following that just goes to prove that The Southern Avenger, pacifist, and friend of Al Qaeda, “Don’t Know Much about History!”

American Conservative

Many good men and women have given their all to keep our nation free, so that men like Jack Hunter can slander our American History.

“…America’s involvement in the Tripolitan War suppressed pirate terrorism in the Mediterranean only after resolute action. It also saw the development of the U.S. Navy and Marine Corps with their proud traditions, and for the first time America made its presence known, not as a “fat duck” but as an eagle in the world of the old empires….”

Early American
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14 thoughts on “UPDATED: The Great Ron Paul Losertarian Anti-War Cannard

  1. The “Pink Flamingo”? Really? More like “Pink Elephant.” LOL @ calling yourself conservative while supporting enormous government and expenditures (when the U.S. is broke) abroad and politicians supporting amnesty. Can you say RINO?! It also appears that you support enormous expenditures for your belly–just an observation, tubs.

  2. How DARE you use the Marine Corps Hymn to push your anti-constitutional VOMIT? You filthy pretender – why not just pretend to have been awarded the CMH by Reagan if you want to use fakery to promote your lunatic agenda? You HAVE NO RIGHT to claim the Marine Corps Hymn for your own. Unlike you, we Marines actually CARE about the Constitution — and I don’t mean “oohhhh how pretty” the way YOU seem to ‘care’ about it…WE are willing to lay down and DIE to preserve it and YOU have the AUDACITY to use OUR MARINE CORPS HYMN to promote yourself while you SPIT on it! You should be ashamed!

  3. How can anyone take this blog seriously? “Losertarians”? “Bots”? I mean, it’s like we’re back in the 6th grade bathroom stalls here. This show is merely to drive traffic to this awful site..Peace.

  4. LOL Look here, civilian, when I picked up corporal, I carried my bruises proudly for 2 and a half weeks. To this day there is no prouder moment in my life than when my blood stripes were pinned on in memory of the battle of Chapultepec.

    One thing Marines know is that the Constitution does not mean just whatever you want to think it means, it means what it says, and it says what it means.

    Now you are just inventing nonsense to justify your own meticulously constructed fantasy world, and denying any truth or fact that stands in the way of your creating your own reality.

    You have my name, and my website. If you think I am making this up, then why don’t you bring suit under the Stolen Valor Act and see how far that flies?

    You see, in America, we are not communists or socialists, so you do not own everything that exists in America. The Stolen Valor Act is a prime example of just that fact. If you’ve never passed in review during the final evolution of Recruit Training at Parris Island or San Diego, then you are NOT a Marine, lady, and you have no place to use the Marine Corps like a prop to advance your fictitious version of the US Constitution.

    The Barbary Pirates Wars were Constitutional because they used Letters of Marque and Reprisal — just as Congressman Paul suggested to go after Al Qaieda in whatever hole they may be hiding. Our current quagmire where my brothers and sisters are spilling their blood in the sands of a country now devoid of Al Qaieda has come about BECAUSE our elected officials ignored the Constitution, laughed at the Constitutional Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and engaged in a war without a declaration.

    Al Qaieda is gone from Afghanistan, and we are there fighting and dying…..for what? Al Qaieda did 9/11, not some random ragged fundamentalist with a misogynist worldview. If we were serious about getting justice against Al Qaieda then we would pursue them wherever they went to the ends of the Earth – just as the Constitutional Letters of Marque and reprisal would allow us to do, as Ron Paul suggested back in 2001.

    Instead, we are fighting and dying for a war over political correctness, and stand in danger of the same fate as the Soviet Union when they tried to do the same thing.

    You have no idea what you are talking about, but like to pretend that you are the supreme arbiter of knowledge on all subjects you care to address. If we had followed Ron Paul’s Constitutional suggestion in 2001, then we would have annihilated every member of Al Qaieda by now, and been back home, in peace. Just like Thomas Jefferson did in the Barbary Pirates War when my forebears marched into the halls of Tripoli.

    You need to check your mouth young lady, and learn to get the facts before you spout off your blood thirsty fantasies where you send brave men and women you do not know to die for purposes related only to politics and profit.

  5. I don’t think he is saying you have no LEGAL right to use the marines hymn. He seems to be saying you are not using it in the proper spirit or whatever.

  6. Sorry, “Halls” refers to the Halls of Montezuma, regarding the Battle of Chapultepec. Tripoli was “shores” which is weird because we actually hit the city of Tripoli nearly a year after the amphibious landing. That’s what happens when flooded with outrage. ;)

  7. Mr. Bradley;

    I should not automatically assume that everyone who defends Ron Paul’s status quo is not using their real name. It has been my experience that very few do. I apologize for not checking into your actual identity before making my comment. That is my fault for automatically assuming you were just another person without the courage to use your own name. Very few do. My bad.

    Other than that, I do find it rather strange that for people like you who “follow” the Constitution, there are two versions of it – one for you and one for the rest of us.

    It works both ways.

    You do realize some idiot has ruled the Stolen Valor Act “Unconstitutional”.

    And no, I am not a Marine. Why would I be one? I don’t like getting dirty! (just a joke). It takes a special person to be a Marine. I appreciate your service. But, that does not give you the right to assume you are right and I am the one who is wrong.

    I’m not a follower, especially of an ego-driven little ninny like Ron Paul. I am a proud Neo-Con. I always have been and always will be. You may castigate all you wish, but Ron Paul is NOT god.

    SJR

  8. I don’t even know what that means, one Constitution for you and one for me? There is only one Constitution and it means what it says and it says what it means. Our governments, Republican and Democrat alike have for over a century now blatantly ignored it while pursuing policies in office.

    One example amongst myriads regards foreign policy and the use of force. The Constitution provides two methods by which our government can use force. First, it authorized the use of Letters of Marque and Reprisal for specific and narrowly defined goals, such as retrieving our hostages from the Barbary Pirates or annihilating Al Qaieda, and second it authorized unlimited nation-on-nation warfare through the use of a Congressional Declaration of War.

    Our nation, in 2001 and 2003 did neither of these things. In fact, they openly stated that they were not operating according to the Constitution, (yes, Republicans) as they insinuated that the Constitution was obsolete.

    “There are things in the Constitution that have been overtaken by events, by time. Declaration of war is one of them. There are things no longer relevant to a modern society. Why declare war if you don’t have to? We are saying to the President, use your judgment. So, to demand that we declare war is to strengthen something to death. You have got a hammerlock on this situation, and it is not called for. Inappropriate, anachronistic, it isn’t done anymore.” –Henry Hyde (R) regarding Declaration of war

    I submit to you and to Henry Hyde that if the Constitution is really obsolete, that we should hold a Constitutional Convention and abolish it. I for one maintain that the Constitution is every bit as relevant as it was when it was ratified on 17 September 1789.

    If we had actually followed the Constitutional provision for the use of specific and narrowly defined military force (as Ron Paul argued in favor of in 2001) that Al Qaieda would be completely destroyed by now, we’d have lost closer to 10 troops than 10,000, and we’d now be at home and at peace with our mission objectives completely met.

    Instead, we ignored the Constitution, and now we are still bogged down in 2 wars spanning across 4 nations and manufacturing 5 new enemies for every one that we kill, and quickly going bankrupt for the privilege. It’s madness!

    Now, the same people who were correct in 2001 and in 2003, we are still correct today. Had we obeyed the Constitution we’d long have defeated Al Qaieda by now, at a fraction of one percent of the cost and casualties. We were right then, and we are still right today, and what do we get? Mocked like some grade school clown. Is this really the preferred stature of politics in your America?

    If so, then thank God the Republican Party is pushing away from your brand of politics. It is long past time to raise the level of discourse in our country, and I will thank you to start by not accusing me of idol worship.

    Glen Bradley

  9. I remember the shame of Vietnam. I think one of the things that truly alarms me is the fact that so-called “conservatives” are demanding we turn tail and run from another conflict.

    SHAME

    Demanding we turn tail and run is shaming those remarkable men and women who have given all for our freedom.

    SHAME

    Sorry, that is what I believe. No matter how you fanatically attempt to quote the Constitution and the great mind of Ron Paul, I consider your rantings that of a fanatic. I don’t like fanatics – of any ilk. I like reasoned, logical discoursed based on actual fact, not theory like how many Ron Pauls can dance on the head of a pin.

    SJR

  10. You like “discourse based on actual fact” as in what is actually law?

    Then why not support the U.S. Constitution as we do?

    There is no SHAME in following the supreme law of the land which puts chains on the politicians instead of the people.

    If you were logical instead of rabidly emotional and hysterical in your diatribes, you would realize that we had ZERO, ZIP, NADA Constitutional authority to go to war in Vietnam to begin with. Perhaps that is why, easily apparent to a truly logical mind, there was no happy ending there. The shame of ignoring the Constitution came BEFORE the shame of being strategically defeated by a third world country.

    Where do we cut our losses or admit being wrong in continuing endless occupations for the benefit of corporate welfare queens like Lindsey Graham? Under what circumstances are we finally going to bring our troops home?

    By your inane standards, we will never leave there–or we’ll give them a bloody nose, leave, and then things will go to pot anyway despite the additional losses of lives and increased numbers of disabled soldiers (just as what happened in Vietnam).

    We could have left years and thousands of LIVES ago. Instead, we stayed there in a slow boil situation just like Vietnam providing plenty of targets to terrorists just so Lindsey Graham can continue to spend taxpayer money and funnel it to favored groups and industries. Your mentally rigid concept of not leaving or we will lose face is the same mentality that led to Japan’s humiliating defeats in WWII. You show no respect for the value of our soldier’s lives in expecting them to fight illegal (unconstitutionally waged) indefinite wars for the benefit of robber barons with government contracts and politicians like Lindsey Graham.

    We need to bring back the idea of punitive expeditions–after properly declaring war since we’ve invaded, consecutively, Afghanistan and then Iraq. After we’ve defeated their military, destroyed their government and war-making capability, just leave them to rot–or not. If they act aggressively again, it’s much cheaper in lives and dollars to go in and do it again. Then again we can leave them to ROT!

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