Lindsey on Libya, Immigration, and Security


“…I would love to give arms to opposition forces, but I don’t know who they are, and I don’t know what they believe in… One thing I’ve learned from Afghanistan and Iraq is that you need to know who you’re dealing with. There are 30 different tribes in Libya…”  Lindsey Graham

Is Ronald Reagan responsible for some of the chaos in the middle east?  From the Libertarian-Republican, where every once in awhile a national security libertarian has the courage to speak out:

“...Looking back, Ronald Reagan’s method and purpose of deploying US Marines in Lebanon in 1982 was terribly misguided. American troops were left in the field lightly armed, bunched together in a readily-accessible barracks, and given no clear mission. The phrase “peace keeping” is not a substitute for strategy, and certainly they were not tasked with attacking Jihadists.

Lebanon’s Christian minority, which was once a majority, was largely middle-class and built Lebanon into what was a “Switzerland of the middle east”. That was before Islamists tore their country apart, through bombs, murder, robbery, and sexual assault.

The US could have charged the Lebanese infidels, or neighboring Israel, for protection services. That would have been an option in a libertarian foreign policy–but apparently not the “non-interventionist” foreign policy of Rothbardites.

That being said, the US withdrawal sent a wrong signal to our enemies. We were “punked” and simply withdrew. That was a reward to Jihadists. They attacked us, and got what they wanted. Whatever is rewarded, we will tend to see more of….”

If this is indeed the case, then I suspect Lindsey is right about Libya.  I must admit my “gut” feeling here is that arming these people is a little creepy.

“…SPREAD YOUR ARMS — Sen. Lindsey Graham has traveled to war zones with Sens. John McCain and Joe Lieberman while sharing tough stances with them on Iraq, Afghanistan and the war on terror. Now, Graham, R-S.C., is breaking with his close Senate allies for the first time on a major national security issue as he rejects their calls to arm rebels trying to topple Libyan strongman Moammar Gadhafi. “Providing arms, I’m not sure that helps us,” Graham told CNN. “I don’t know if you could control right now who would get the arms.”…”

Lindsey is urging caution in Libya.

“…”Providing arms, I’m not sure that helps us,” Graham told CNN. “I don’t know if you could control right now who would get the arms.”

McCain, R-Ariz., and Lieberman, I-Conn., were traveling in Egypt, where they urged President Barack Obama to take tougher steps against Gadhafi.

“Now is the time for action, not just statements,” Lieberman told CNN. “(We need to provide) the kinds of tangible support – no-fly zone, recognition of the revolutionary government, the citizens government, and support for them with both humanitarian assistance and I would provide them with arms.”

McCain said the United States should do more to help oust Gadhafi and “hasten his demise” two weeks after pro-democracy protests began in Libya on the heels of uprisings in Tunisia and Egypt.

“We should recognize a provisional government somewhere in eastern Libya … perhaps Benghazi,” McCain said. “We should make it clear that we will provide assistance to that provisional government.”

McCain stressed that the United States should give rebels “the equipment and the materiel that they could use.”

Graham, though, urged less aggressive steps.

“What I would suggest is that we really keep implementing U.N. sanctions on the economic side, on the travel side, and go after assets,” Graham said. “And a no-fly zone would make a lot of sense to me.”…”

Lindsey on immigration, security, etc.