“…“My father never would have broken up a family to try and make, in fact, a point on immigration.And so he would have applauded Newt Gingrich on that.”…” Michael Reagan
It has begun. Once again the far fight is out to destroy anyone who doesn’t agree with their version of immigration reform. The most fun, though, is Sparkles Bachmann. She was for Newt’s plan before Newt voiced it. All you need to know about Mitt Romney is the fact that he is campaigning with Sheriff Joe. Unfortunately, Sheriff Joe is going to endorse Rick Perry. To The Pink Flamingo, that is the kiss of death for Perry. Robert Stacy McCain, a known anti-Hispanic racist, who hangs out with white supremacists, is against Newt. He quotes Numbers USA, a noted hate group. It makes you wonder what part of stupid the GOP does not understand. You might want to ask Mitt why he has flipped on immigration.
Since 2005, The Pink Flamingo has been known to comment that people in Iowa are not quite the “norm” for the rest of the country. It is revolting that the GOP panders to them, but then the GOP has become nothing but a party of spineless panders. I also think they are some of the most bigoted people in the country (next to some of my relatives in Florida).
“...The Iowa caucus electorate is representative of the most conservative branch of the GOP. A near-majority of the participants consider themselves “very conservative.” More to the point, in 2008, entrance pollsters asked participants which of the following four issues were most important to them: terrorism, the economy, Iraq, illegal immigration. Amid two wars and a recession, illegal immigration came in with a plurality of 33 percent (the economy was second with 26 percent, terrorism third with 21 percent, and Iraq fourth with 17 percent). While John McCain did fairly well with the other three cohorts of voters, he received just 4 percent support among the “illegal immigration” voters. These voters represented the strongest base of support for Mike Huckabee, who won the caucuses.
With the subsequent economic plunge, it is possible that illegal immigration has faded as an important concern, although it is certainly wrapped up in the issue of joblessness. But I doubt if the attitude has faded completely. This is a potential problem for Gingrich, and it provides an opening for Romney who, incidentally, ran best among “illegal immigration” voters in 2008, and overall finished right behind Huckabee. …”
The editor of the Des Moines Register thinks that Newt has ruined any momentum he has going into the caucuses by being decent, honorable and acting on CHRISTIAN VALUES. So much for all that Conservative Christian do-do we hear about Iowa. Evidently the fact that Iowa has the the largest Hispanic population doesn’t make much of a difference when you are an anti-Hispanic bigot.
“...Not so fast, argues Karoun Demirjian in the Las Vegas Sun. Gingrich may have decided to give Latino voters, especially those who are conservative or center-right on other issues, a reason to vote Republican — and that makes a big difference in the early primary states. Demirjian also notes that Republicans do have an opening in 2012 for these votes, if they choose to take it…”
According to Rasmussen, 65% of Americans oppose Automatic Citizenship for Children born to Illegal immigrations. The problem with Rasmussen, is that he is now throwing out polls and not giving the internals, unless you pay for them. Pew is a better poll.
If you are serious about saving money and doing something that will cut spending, you STOP deportation of non-criminal illegal immigrants, and cease detaining them. You reunite the over 5000 children who are now in the foster system after being taken from their parents who are here illegally. If you are a decent human being you do the same thing. If you are a minion of the Tanton machine, then you do the opposite. Then again, if you agree with his stand on anti-Hispanic bigotry, it makes The Pink Flamingo wonder if you are truly serious about being against abortion and radical environmental theories.
Within the next few days, we will soon discover who controls both the GOP and the conservative movement. While there are those among us (The Pink Flamingo sometimes included) who think that the AFP and the Koch brothers are the puppet-masters, they are strictly minor leagues. The person who controls the conservative movement with a clinched fist is a very liberal, environment radical, and outspoken advocate not only of Planned Parenthood, but abortion on demand.
These groups have enough money and enough white supremacist power online, to make it look like they are powerful, with very large numbers. Nothing could be farther from the truth, but with FOX pushing the bigoted anti-Hispanic agenda, The Washington Times promoting it, and popular bloggers like Michelle Malkin and R. S. McCain (both connected to the white supremacist VDare) you have a match made in hell. Add to it the fact that the average Republican is such a coward they get a couple blast faxes and they are nothing but a quivering mess of lime jello.
According to TMP, Newt has fallen into the immigration “trap”. It is a subject beloved of the media to destroy normal Republicans, and used as a wedge issue by truly vile individuals who have more in common with David Duke than Ronald Reagan.
God Bless Newt Gingrich!
“…I do not believe that the people of the United States are going to take people who have been here a quarter century, who have children and grandchildren, who are members of the community, who may have done something 25 years ago, separate them from their families and expel them. I do believe if you’ve been here recently and have no ties to the U.S., we should deport you. I do believe we should control the border. I do believe we have various penalties for employers, but i urge you to look at the Krieble Foundation plan. The party that says it’s the party of the family is not going to adopt an immigration policy which destroys families who have been here a quarter century. I’m prepared to take the heat for saying, let’s be humane in enforcing the law without giving them citizenship but by finding a way to create legality so that they are not separated from their families….”
Very few conservatives, this day and age, have the courage to stand up to the John Tanton juggernaut, of Numbers USA, FAIR
“…NumbersUSA, the largest anti-immigrant organization in the country, with ties to both the Tea Parties and white nationalists, announced that they would run ads during the September 22 Fox News sponsored Republican presidential candidate debate.
The NumbersUSA move follows the ads run by an allied group, Californians for Population Stabilization (CAPS), which launched a new television ad during the September 7 CNN Republican presidential debate. Like the NumbersUSA ad, the CAPS spot called for further restricting documented immigration into the country because of high unemployment.
This new push was explained in The Social Contract, a journal of the anti-immigrant movement. The entire winter 2010-2011 Issue of The Social Contract was devoted to the theme of “Limiting Legal Immigration.” (The previous issue of the journal called for restricting immigration of all Muslims to the U.S. on “national security grounds.”). Since its founding, The Social Contract has repeatedly served as a platform for white nationalists. The editor of the publication, Wayne Lutton, has been active in both racist and Holocaust denial circles, according to Blood and Politics: The History of the White Nationalist Movement from the Margins to the Mainstream.
For a number of years The Social Contract and NumbersUSA both resided under the financial umbrella of U.S. Inc, a corporation controlled by John Tanton in Petoskey, Michigan. A retired eye doctor, Tanton has written that maintaining American culture requires “a European-American majority.” His racist writings have forced him out of several different anti-immigrant groups. Though NumbersUSA became financially independent in 2002, the organization remains closely allied with groups in the Tanton orbit, most notably the Federation for American Immigration Reform.
The ties between the groups extend to the fact that NumbersUSA head Roy Beck once worked as an editor for The Social Contract, alongside Lutton. Beck even helped edit a book by Tanton and Lutton. Moreover, Beck spoke at a November 1997 conference of the white nationalist Council of Conservative Citizens, while Lutton served on the group’s editorial advisory board….”
The Tanton cause is backed by the usual bigoted conservative sources. The problem with the far right is the fact that they have reached the point, like Rush Limbaugh, where they are destroying their own credibility by embracing extreme views. Rush was before Newt Gingrich, before he was against him. Now, because Rush is out of his mind, embracing who knows what, Newt Gingrich is evil. Let’s deal with the fact that Rush is finished. It is sad to see his great career end this way, but let’s stick a fork in him. He’s done.
Then again, Newt is the smartest politician up there. If you doubt it, just ask him. Jonah Goldberg brings up something rather interest about what Newt is doing.
“...Still, those who dismiss Gingrich as hopelessly unelectable in the general election should at least keep in mind that Gingrich’s apostasies will make it harder to tar him as a cookie-cutter “right-wing extremist.”…Gingrich, meanwhile, is much more of a wild card. It’s no secret he sees himself as a world historical figure, the last of the great statesmen. And part of that self-conception is his idea that statesmen cut grand bargains with the opposition when history calls for it. That’s not necessarily a bad thing, if you know for sure when history calls for it. If the GOP controlled Congress, conservatives would be on constant “Nixon to China” watch with a President Gingrich…”
I think we are now looking at both Mitt and Newt playing toward the general election audience. I know Newt probably is. He’s also going for the Hispanic vote. That is smart. If he took someone like Rubio as a VP, we could pick up what we lost last time do to the bigotry of the far right. Case in point is Steve King.
We all expected William Gheen, another friend of nasty white supremacists to attack.
“…The response was swift. Some conservatives asserted he had wounded his candidacy, perhaps fatally. “Newt did himself significant harm tonight on immigration among caucus and primary voters,” tweeted Tim Albrecht, deputy chief of staff to Iowa Gov. Terry Branstad, whose state holds the lead-off caucuses in January.
Immigration has proven to be politically treacherous for Republicans trying to appeal to the party’s conservative base. Just ask Texas Gov. Rick Perry, who said critics of in-state tuition for illegal immigrants “did not have a heart.” Perry had to apologize for the remark.
William Gheen, president of the Americans for Legal Immigration PAC, said Gingrich’s campaign “will now take the ‘Perry plunge.'”…”
Have you begun notice how the more hard-core anti-immigration bigots have a tendency to hang out with Ron Paul Bots, the extreme Right, libertarians, VDare, Michelle Malkin, R. S. McCain, Gheen, and their little buddies in the CofCC? Most of these people demand Republicans sell their soul to a policy that destroys the soul, BUT they are not courageous enough to admit they ARE NOT Republicans!
You might want to note that Roy Beck has an association with the racist Council of Conservative Citizens. They hold their annual convention with Stormfront. If you want to know how far the GOP has strayed from being the Party of Reagan and becoming the Party of John Birch and Stormfront, you might want to note what Michael Reagan said.
THIS is how you win California. This headline and photo are worth thousands and thousands of votes.
“…That’s the sort of thing liberals are always saying when they attack immigration restrictionists, who resent the accusation even more when it is made by their fellow conservatives. I can imagine how they feel. For the most part, these immigration restrictionists are just as humane as anyone. They give to charity, do volunteer work, help out people in need.
They see themselves as compassionate people.
What they haven’t done is ponder mass deportations in anything but the comfortably abstract. What would it be like in reality? Shocking, even to them. If America started aggressively rounding up all the illegal immigrants, support for that course of action would fall precipitously from its current level. Some folks would change their minds after seeing the screaming, tearful families on the news; others when they realized that their dry cleaner or gardener or neighbor or co-worker was secretly undocumented. There would literally be millions of heart-wrenching stories.
America would also feel a lot more like a police state.
Gingrich is a smart enough operator to have thought through the political consequences of any measure he might’ve proposed back in the 1990s, so he understands all that intuitively by now.
The most savvy restrictionists know it too. It’s why they favor handling the illegal immigrants already here through attrition, and go so far as to claim that mass deportations are a straw-man. Perhaps it was these restrictionist wonks Gingrich was thinking of when he thought he could get away with, “I don’t see how the party that calls itself the party of the family is going to adopt an immigration policy that destroys families who have been here for a quarter century.”
In reality, partisans have a tremendous capacity for cognitive dissonance, and many Republican partisans are powerfully attached to the idea that the rule of law demands the deportation of everyone who came here illegally. Those who have spent time reporting on the issue know what the grassroots would say to Gingrich: “What part of illegal don’t you understand?” This is, after all, the same crowd that cheers when Herman Cain jokes about an electrified fence on the Mexican border, another policy proposal that they haven’t thought through.
The ugliness is mostly rooted in failing to see that illegal immigrants aren’t abstractions. They’re people. Before damning the restrictionists who don’t grasp this, a failure for which they ought to be faulted, remember that most of us are guilty of the same behavior, whether we’re brooding about the vehicle ahead of us on the freeway, or cheering the drone strike that killed a terrorist and three unidentified persons, or insulting someone in an online comments section, or doing nothing for decades as prison inmates are raped and assaulted in state run institutions. …”
One of these days the GOP is going to wake up with one massive hang-over when they discover that the anti-Hispanic bigots don’t have that large a following. They will discover the numbers they need for victory are within the Hispanic Community.
Why, then, would anyone want Sheriff Joe’s endorsement?