“You can say anything you want to about President Obama and about me. You just can’t join al Qaeda!” Lindsey Graham
Ceterum autem censeo, Carthaginem esse delendam
America’s Cato the Elder is at it again.
Praise God we have one very real statesman left in this country.
Lindsey is getting some flack for his stance on the National Defense Authorization Act. He spoke on the floor of the Senate today, and you need to watch it. There are so many libertarians out there, along with Ron Paul Bots who think Lindsey is out to take away their freedom. This clip is the work of a real statesman.
What part of the term “treason” don’t libertarians understand? I guess because the tea party panderers, Rand Paul, Mike Lee, Mark Kirk don’t believe we are at war. Then again, they don’t believe much in the military either.
On Fox, just a little over an hour ago, Mike Huckabee said something I’ve been waiting for a Republican to say. We need to define just who a Republican is. Libertarians are NOT Republicans, and have no business being involved in Republican politics trying to muddy the waters. Naturally the FOX bimbo prompt reader cut him off, immediately.
It is a serious problem.
People like Jack Hunter are LIBERTARIANS. Hunter is a shill for Ron Paul, yet his racist and bigoted voice (he has a history of this) has been elevated to the national stage by libertarians. As an an American, he has a right to say what he wants. As a Republican, I have a right to demand these Ron Paul Bot, libertarian cowards who don’t give a damn about our country, only their little god, Ron Paul, are required to identify themselves as Libertarian and stop lying that they are Republicans. Hunter has an almost pathologically hatred of Lindsey. Anything that comes from his poisonous pen needs to be identified as such and NOT as conservative nor Republican.
“...One of the proponents of making no exceptions for Americans, Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, said it would be “crazy” to exempt Qaeda suspects who are Americans and are arrested inside the country from battlefield-style detention. He argued that, to stop other attacks, they must be interrogated without the protections of the civilian criminal justice system.
Citizens who are suspected of joining Al Qaeda are opening themselves up “to imprisonment and death,” Mr. Graham said, adding, “And when they say, ‘I want my lawyer,’ you tell them: ‘Shut up. You don’t get a lawyer. You are an enemy combatant, and we are going to talk to you about why you joined Al Qaeda.’ ”
But Senator Mike Lee, Republican of Utah, said citizen terrorism suspects should retain their “fundamental civil liberties” in order to protect the founding principles of the United States.
“I think at a bare minimum, that means we will not allow U.S. military personnel to arrest and indefinitely detain U.S. citizens, regardless of what label we happen to apply to them,” he said.
Before voting to leave current law unchanged, the Senate rejected, 55 to 45, a proposal by Senator Dianne Feinstein, Democrat of California, to instead say that Americans are exempt from detention under the 2001 authorization to use military force.
The uncertainty over the current law added confusion. Some, like Mr. Graham and Mr. Levin, insisted that the Supreme Court had already approved holding Americans as enemy combatants, even people arrested inside the United States. Others, like Senators Feinstein and Richard J. Durbin, Democrat of Illinois, insisted that it had not done so….”
“…But Graham argued that the military needs to be empowered to grab anyone, including citizens, to ensure the country remains safe. He noted that two of the highest-profile recent planned attacks on America failed only by chance, in the cases of the attempted Times Square bombing and the attempted Christmas airplane bombing.
“There’s nothing to suggest that our intelligence community doesn’t need as many tools as possible, because the guy got through the system and we’re just lucky as hell the bomb didn’t go off,” Graham said, referring to the Christmas attempt. “The Times Square bomber — nobody interrupted that plot. The guy didn’t know how to set the bomb off. We’re just lucky as hell the bomb didn’t go off.
“So don’t stand here and tell me that we have got it right because we have not,” Graham continued in a heated exchange, refusing to let Feinstein interrupt. “We never will always get it right. I’m not saying that as criticism, because we’re going to get hit again. We can’t be right and lucky all the time.”
He argued that adding restrictions on whom the military can detain would get in the way of counterterrorism efforts.
“The one thing I don’t want to do is micromanage the war,” Graham said.
The Senate bill — specifically, sections 1031 and 1032 — requires the military to detain al Qaeda suspects, but it permits the Defense Department to then free U.S. citizens if it chooses. The House version of the bill lacks the provision on detaining Americans….”