Attack of the Romney Bots (or) The FOX – Libertarian Fix


Why is Newt doing so well?

“…The thought of the professorial Gingrich challenge Obama directly has Republicans salivating. The entire crowd rose to its feet with cheers and applause to the new GOP frontrunner’s comment. It’s rare that a presidential candidate’s comment earns a standing ovation. Newt Gingrich made a major impact on this crowd.

“Newt makes sense,” said Pat Knueven of Urbandale. “He says it like it is and he says what needs to be done, which we’re not hearing today from the current administration. Newt knows what needs to be done and he knows how to do it.”

Conservative activist Kathy Carley agrees. “I loved his speech. I think Newt’s brilliant. Out of all of the candidates, Newt Gingrich loves our country and will fight to do our country right.”

Gingrich rose to the front of the GOP pack by sounding like the smartest person in the room. Speeches like the one he gave Thursday night could keep him there. The response was overwhelmingly positive and with just one month remaining until the Iowa Caucus, Republicans are flocking to Gingrich in droves. He likely secured several more votes with this appearance. Newt Gingrich is on a roll….”

Now, contrast this to what you are hearing on FOX, that Newt doesn’t have a chance, and can’t win against Obama.  He has a poor ground game.  No attention, etc.  Somewhere there is a disconnect with reality.

The other day Newt Gingrich dared to joke that one did not need to know anything to be a commentator for FOX, but when running for POTUS, one needed to know facts.  Within a few hours of his remark, FOX began to do everything possible to trash talk his campaign.  Formerly reliable and respectable pundits like Charles Krauthammer are ruining their reputations by taking the FOX line, damning Newt and praising Romney.

I still keep asking why the Dems want to run against Mitt, rather than Newt.  Why are liberals pushing Mitt?  What do they know that we don’t?  Liberals don’t puts a Republican out of charity.  They push the one most likely to be defeated.  So, let me get this straight, cranky old white people want Newt.  Romney is Cool?  What is out there, not vetted, that can come back and take out Romney next October?  Liberals are not so charitable with one Republican candidate over another unless they know something we don’t know.


The right is now pushing Mitt because he is the most “electable”.  Is he?

NY Post

What I love about all those in the far right who were for Newt, but now they are against him, is, once upon a time, they credited him with 1994.  Now, though, he’s an evil loser.  Cool!

I don’t know about you, but something isn’t right here.  There’s a disturbance in the Force.   There are some who think that Murdock is against Mitt, but if you start looking at things from a distance, my theory about the Ron Paul Bot attacks on Newt may not be far from the Mark.  The Libertarian-Republican blog there is this confluence between the talking right, the normal libertarian – republicans, and the Ron Paul Bot idiots, all against Newt.

I rarely agree with Erick Erickson, but he’s calling it on this one.  I keep asking why the Dems want to run against Mitt.  They keep talking how he would be the better candidate, that Obama would wipe the floor with Newt. To me this means something is going on behind the scenes.  There’s a heck of a lot of dirt on Romney.  We know what the dirt is on Newt.  I just keep asking myself, why are they pushing Mitt?

“…And suddenly Mitt Romney thinks it is uncalled for to ask him why he has changed his position on so many issues so often around the time he begins a quest for a different political office?! If reasonable questions from a Fox News reporter are “uncalled for” and “unusual,” there may not be big boy pants big enough to hold Mitt Romney and his tears once the mainstream media starts asking him the questions he has so far done his level best to avoid.

I think what we are seeing is that Mitt Romney did not truly get vetted in 2008. Remember, Giuliani was in first place and the media fixated him until he started to collapse. Then McCain and Romney both started rising and the media was so orgasmic over McCain as the comeback kid they ignored Romney until just as they were turning their gaze to Romney a guy named Huckabee took off like a rocket. It became all Huckabee all the time.

This time around, the race has been so fluid and so many have bounced ahead of Mitt Romney, he’s largely avoided the TSA/MSM pat down. Hell, everyone figured they could just do it in the general election.

But now Mitt Romney is having to get out there because people are starting to notice he is avoiding tough questions. And it seems more and more the man just cannot take the daily grind of people asking him about . . .wait for it . . . wait for it . . . . . . his record….”


Those supporting Mitt Romney have taken a page from the Ron Paul Bots.  They have become nasty, vindictive, lying scum, who are quite willing to do anything and say anything to prove their point.  The Pink Flamingo has a very good idea that many of the Bots are probably one in the same.  They are using two different sets of talking points.  They are also feeding off one another, case in point is Jim Geraghty’s NRO column which is the prelude to the Ron Paul ad.

  1. Gingrich is unelectable because of his past.
  2. Gingrich is unelectable because of his stand on immigration.

Then there is:

  1. Newt has too many ideas
  2. He was a lobbyist
  3. He took money from Fannie/Freddie
  4. Divorced
  5. Not a real conservative
  6. Not dependable
  7. Unelectable
  8. Far too many ideas
  9. Not conservative enough
  10. Has no organization
  11. Not libertarian enough
  12. Not reliable
  13. Arrogant
  14. Self serving
  15. Unfaithful to dying wife (who was not dying)
  16. Not Mitt Romney
  17. The far right punditry says he cannot win
  18. Dems say Obama will destroy him
  19. Dems want Romney to run against Obama
  20. And my personal favorite – he has made too much money in the private sector!
  21. (oh and) He’s not electable

Hugh Hewitt wrote:

“...Which is a long way of saying that the best thing that can happen to Newt right now is that the conservative media vet him and do so with great vigor, anticipating every charge and debating every past apostasy and failing.  Newt’s personal story, marriage to Callista and his conversion are powerful walls against his past poor judgments in his life, but they serve not as all to answer Steyn’s charge that Newt “hops and skips like a giddy frog across lily pads across the pond, from one, little, itsy-bitsy novelty idea to another, not awfully well thought out.”

“And when I look at some of the things he’s managed to sign onto over the last fifteen years, I find that very worrying,” Steyn offered, before doubling down:  “The idea of Newt as the Republican presidential candidate is, I have to say, extremely dismaying to me.”…”

Legal Insurrection

Chris Christie is now leading the attack against Newt.  Remember, he’s endorsed Mitt.

It is really rather fascinating.  Let’s start with Mark Steyn. I wish someone would please send him back to Canada.  Steyn is owned by the AFP and the Tanton machine.  I think we are starting to see some sort of harmonic convergence here.  Take the interview Hugh Hewitt did with him.

“...Well, you know, the issue here is, I think there are two things. I mean, America basically chooses not to control its border as a matter, its southern border, as a matter of choice. It has made the political choice not to do that. It has made the political choice not to enforce its immigration laws against illegal immigrants as a matter of choice. And by the way, it’s grossly abusive of legal immigrants. And I happen to speak from personal knowledge of this. But I can tell you green card holders, we get fingerprinted and eyeball scan all of the time. It’s absolutely disgraceful. No country on Earth, no civilized nation that you emigrate to treat you as lousily as the United States of America treats legal immigrants, compared to the blind eye in terms of illegal immigrants. So I think in a sense, there’s a lot of shadow boxing going on about this. Newt is trying to find a position here that he thinks is plausible and viable. But at the heart of it, what he’s come up with is simply not credible, that you would have different local community boards offering up and down judgments on people who’ve been here 20 or 30 years. That simply isn’t going to fly. That’s the sort of thing that when Newt’s brainstorming late at night, and he says okay, we’re going to come up with an immigration policy in ten minutes, and this is what it is, and then he flits on to discussing foreign policy, it’s not a credible, serious solution to the problem….”

PPP is saying that if Gingrich is nominated, he will pull 44% in Florida, but Obama is polling 50%.  He is easier to defeat than Romney who is pulling 44%.  Obama is only puling 45%.  In other words, Florida is going to go for Obama, unless something drastic happens.

From Human Events

“…The news that former Rep. Guy Molinari (R.-N.Y.) yesterday denounced Newt Gingrich as “evil” may have less to do with anything in Gingrich’s character and more to do with the fact they were rivals during their U.S. House days in the 1980s and had at least one major showdown….”

Human Events


Human Events

 “…“No disrespect to any of the other candidates,” Guerriero said, but given the state of the country, the economy, and the race to date, if Romney is to be the nominee, “he needs to go against the best debater with the deepest understanding of policy both domestic and foreign, and that appears to be Newt Gingrich.”

It’s no secret that Gingrich likes debates and has performed well in them, but Romney has had his share of solid performances too, and Guerriero and his colleagues believe Romney would stand to benefit from a two-person format featuring his toughest opponent to prepare him for debates against President Obama if he does win the GOP nomination.

He continued, “It looks like Newt’s made a real run at this, and the Romney camp is trying to run out the clock, and we don’t think that’s necessarily a wise strategy.” Instead, he said, the base should be able to see the top candidates answer the tough questions that these conservative publications don’t believe are being asked.

Going forward, Guerriero said, they have asked the candidates if they would agree to such a debate after the first few primary contests. Gingrich, he said, “is itching to do it,” but the Romney campaign “has been more circumspect.”…”

ABC News

You want to know what all of this is about?  Newt Gingrich ain’t no libertarian – thank God!  This is part of the story.  Newt is NOT libertarian.  Right now the libertarians control FOX, the control the WSJ, they control the conservative media.  They control most of the talking heads.  It is only logical that this sort of a comment is going to bring out the Newt Haters.

“...”Well, it’s not a point of view libertarians would embrace,” he said. “But I am more in the Alexander Hamilton-Teddy Roosevelt tradition of conservatism. I recognize that there are times when you need government to help spur private enterprise and economic development. Look at our own history. The government provided railroad land grants to encourage widespread adoption of what was then the most modern form of transportation to help develop our country. The Homestead Act essentially gave land away to those willing to live on it and develop it. We used what were in effect public-private partnerships to bring telephone service and electricity to every community in our nation. All of these are examples of government bringing about desired public purposes without creating massive, taxpayer-funded bureaucracies. To me that is a pragmatic and effective conservative approach.”…”

Weasel Zippers


Much of what is going on today in the GOP is the fault of FOX News.  They are in the tank for libertarians, with Rupert Murdock being joined at the hip with the Koch Brothers via the Cato Institute.  They are so in it, the waters have been muddied as to who is a Republican and who is a Libertarian.  We are literally watching a coup take place within the GOP.  The only way it will be stopped is with the nomination of either Newt Gingrich or Rick Perry.

More surprising: the tea party seems to be contaminating the larger Republican brand.

Republican favorability has dropped 7 points with the general public since September 2010, with the steepest portion of the drop occuring during the debt-ceiling debate last summer. But in congressional districts where the tea party is strong, Republican support has dropped further, by 10 points. And while overall GOP numbers are stronger in those tea party districts, even there, the unfavorables are higher than the favorables, 48 unfavorable to 41 favorable. This is coming to seem a very expensive tea party indeed.’…”


It isn’t just the tea party damaging the GOP. The far right isn’t helping, either. The Pink Flamingo found a vile little headline on a liberal site the other day. I was going to ignore it, but I’ve been thinking much the same thing. We all know the extreme right is basically destroying the state of Arizona for the GOP. Granted there is another problem we in the west face – rats leaving the sinking ship of California. They ruined their state, now they are moving into our less populated states, bring with them their liberal stupidity. Thanks a lot to Ron Paul and his libertarian bots.



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We are in this economic mess because of Randians. Does the GOP care?

“...Until the collapse of Lehman Brothers, it was generally accepted that free markets provided the most efficient way of allocating resources to different economic activities. But firms like Lehman operated in the ultimate free market and ended up destroying themselves, nearly taking the whole capitalist system down with them…..” Nick Boles

NPR dared use Ayn Rand’s words against her. Consequently her pandering, slobbering followers on the extreme libertarian right are all over themselves trying to prop up her pathetic ideas.

“…”One of the principal achievements of this country in the past 20 years, particularly — I think most people agree — is the gradual growth of social, protective legislation, based on the principle that we are our brothers’ keepers.”

Like welfare. Social Security. Fair labor standards. Public health programs.

“How do you feel about the political trends of the United States?” Wallace asks.

“I feel that it is terrible that you see destruction all around you, and that you are moving toward disaster until and unless all those welfare state conceptions have been reversed and rejected,” Rand answers.

These programs are destroying individual liberties, Rand says, especially the freedom of producers, entrepreneurs, businessmen. The government has no right to take their property, she says.

“I imagine that you’re talking now about taxes,” Wallace says. “And you believe that there should be no right by the government to tax. You believe that there should be no such thing as unemployment compensation, regulation during times of stress.”

“That’s right,” Rand replies. “I am opposed to all forms of control. I am for an absolute, laissez-faire, free, unregulated economy.”…”

The Other McCain

Ayn Rand worshiped money, not God. Like the libertarians who have followed, she basically detested the “little people” and felt that those who had, need more. All they needed to do was reach out and take it, plunder it for themselves. She did not approve of taxes, etc. I suspect today she would be very much in love with corporate welfare.

What happens when libertarians take their ideals to the farthest extent you may go?

Third Estate

Jacob Sullum, in Reason, admits he is not a Rand fan. He thinks her current crop of followers are getting everything wrong. That makes a heck of a lot of sense.

“…It is clear from Rand’s essays and fiction that she took a dim view of businessmen who game the system, using government to gain an artificial advantage over their competitors or customers. Her books are replete with such characters, and they are not the heroes. She was emphatically pro-market as opposed to pro-business (hence Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal), and she never would have endorsed “promoting oneself at the expense of others” in the sense of seeking special breaks, subsidies, or privileges. In her vision, a moral man promotes himself by providing value to others, not by using force to get his way. No doubt it’s true that many people who profess to believe in free markets, including self-identified Rand fans, do not uphold these principles, but that does not mean Rand herself did not. If you’re going to take issue with Rand’s ideas, it helps to have some inkling of what she actually said….”

I have been telling you so for nearly 2 years. The Tea Party is harming the GOP. It is hurting us. It could cost us seats in the House. It ruined the Senate for us in 2010. And – now there are the numbers to prove it. You know all those newly elected Tea Party members of the House – the ones are who so incompetent they almost make Dems look good? Well – a bunch of them could LOSE big in November.


Do you want proof that FOX has been attempting to manipulate the GOP. Case in point: Roger Ailes and Sarah Palin.

“...Sarah Palin’s announcement that she wouldn’t run for president disappointed her legions of admirers — but it infuriated Roger Ailes. The Fox News chief wasn’t angry about the decision itself. Rather, he was livid that Palin made the October 5 announcement on Mark Levin’s conservative talk-radio program, robbing Fox News of an exclusive and a possible ratings bonanza. Fox was relegated to getting a follow-up interview with Palin on Greta Van Susteren’s 10 p.m. show, after the news of Palin’s decision had been drowned out by Steve Jobs’s death. Ailes was so mad, he considered pulling her off the air entirely until her $1 million annual contract expires in 2013.

After the announcement, he called Fox’s executive vice-president Bill Shine into a meeting. Shine is the network’s principal point of contact with Palin. Ailes told him she had made a big mistake. “I paid her for two years to make this announcement on my network,” Ailes pointedly told Shine. Sources described the episode on condition of anonymity, given the sensitivity of the relationships. …”

The Koch Brothers help fund the Ayn Rand institute by the tune of about $25,000 a year. That’s chump change for them, but it tells us what we need to know. They are part of the problem, part of the destruction of this country. The root of the disaster awaiting us is the atheistic influence of the tea parties and hard core libertarian theology.

There are times when the paranoid are vindicated. Several things have recently surfaced, including this fascinating commentary by David Frum, which basically confirms what I’ve been saying all along. The US is turning into a Plutocracy. If the country we once knew and loved becomes nothing but a feudal fiefdom for the Koch Brothers and their little friends, blame FOX News and Rupert Murdock. The Pink Flamingo has been looking for ties between AFP and Rupert Murdock. Low and behold, Murdock, a libertarian, was on the board of the Cato Institute in 1997. The Cato Institute was founded by the Koch Brothers.

Progressive American Liberal

This is about the forces of the followers of Ayn Rand and the Tea Parties selling their souls for some libertarian theology. One cannot follow Christ and Rand. The two philosophies are completely incompatible.   There are no ethics, morality, or basic decency. All that matters is the immortal dollar, no matter how it is made.  We also need to face the fact that the Murdock Machine, and their slobbering “experts” are attempting to chose who is the 2012 GOP nominee.  Considering the abject corruption of the Murdock Empire, why would a person give anyone who works for them any credibility.

There have been rumors for ages that the Murdock family was in a bit of a snit about FOX, and other things. Son, James, is in serious trouble in the UK.

Huffington Post

From Ethics Alarm:

“…Fox News is determined to show that America hates the Occupy Wall Street protesters, and keeps devising polls increasingly rigged to make their case. This morning Roger Ailes’ culture warriors unveiled a new one, so intellectually dishonest, so devoid of survey legitimacy, that it made me do a Danny Thomas spit-take that soaked my Washington Post with coffee. …”

The Murdock empire is as dirty as anything we’ve seen in years. When you combine the Murdock Empire with the abject lack of honor and ethics of the Koch empire, you get a disaster in the making. Conrad Black created a scathing expose of Murdock.

Huffington Post
Much of this is about creating a nation where only a few will have anything. The rest of us will be their surfs.

For months, a few of us have been speculating that Rupert Murdock is trying to re-elect Barack Obama. We use as an example the FOX creation of the tea parties. Without FOX there would be no tea parties. Now, evidently, there is an editorial change at the WSJ. They are going out of their way to hurt the GOP. We’ve been noticing this, but just thought it was a little healthy paranoia.

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