Round Dos: Coburn v. Norquist

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In the seemingly  never ending bout between Grover Norquist (welfare advocate for the wealthy) v. Tom Coburn, it appears that Coburn has now flipped the bird at Norquist.

The Pink Flamingo’s money is on Senator Tom Coburn.  Is it possible he’s now just enjoying the fact that he knows how to drive Grover Norquist nearly insane?  I think that is now a distinct possibility.

Let’s just sit back and enjoy the show.  All Coburn did was donate about $250 bucks to  Democratic Senator Joe Manchin’s re-election.  Manchin, according to Coburn, hasn’t sold out to special interests – like Grover Norquist.

Yea, it hit the fan.

“…Coburn has been one of the loudest Republican voices calling for a big deal on debt reduction, even one than includes tax increases, and if there’s any chance of such a bargain after November it’ll likely have both him and Manchin among its supporters….”

Coburn has been working with Sens. Mark Warner (D-Va.), Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), Kent. Conrad (D-N.D.), Mike Crapo (R-Idaho) and Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.) to deal with taxes and spending cuts.  He and Norquist are not exactly the best of buds.

In other words, Manchin hasn’t sold his soul to Norquist, and Norquist is a little ticky about it.

The Hill

“…Americans for Tax Reform, a conservative anti-tax group, is taking shots at Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) for donating to Senate Democrat Joe Manchin of West Virginia.

Grover Norquist, president of the group, noted in a Twitter posting Sunday that Manchin had a 15-percent rating by the American Conservative Union in 2011.

That was followed by a salvo of tweets from John Kartch, director of communications at Americans for Tax Reform, taking Coburn to task….”

The Hill

Let’s face it, someone needs to pull the plug on Grover Norquest.

“…Former President George H.W. Bush was recently quoted in Parade magazine as asking “who the hell is Grover Norquist anyway?” And House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, referred to Norquist late last year as “some random person.”

However, Democratic leaders insist that Norquist controls Republicans in Congress by demanding adherence to the pledge.

In a column in The New York Times last week, Coburn criticized Norquist’s “tortured definition of tax purity” and Democrats for using Norquist as a “boogeyman” to mask their own refusal to offer a deficit plan that addressed the real source of the nation’s financial problems — entitlement programs.

Asked why he was again engaging Norquist in a public debate, Coburn said it was “to break the lie that Republicans won’t move on taxes.”

Doing that required telling the truth about how some Republicans — including Boehner in budget talks last summer and Senate Republicans on the ethanol vote — had been willing to raise revenue despite Norquist’s objections, Coburn said.

The senator said the nation’s fiscal problems can no longer be ignored.

“So the only thing left to do is to fix our country, which means recognizing what the real problem is and then compromising, which is what I’ve been criticized by Grover Norquist for — compromising to get a solution to buy some time.”

“...A global super-rich elite has exploited gaps in cross-border tax rules to hide an extraordinary £13 trillion ($21tn) of wealth offshore – as much as the American and Japanese GDPs put together – according to research commissioned by the campaign group Tax Justice Network….”

Go ahead and accuse The Pink Flamingo of being a socialist. I don’t care. This whole tax thing is becoming absurd. The Dems want to tax anything that moves and the GOP wants to tax anyone who isn’t making a fortune, and let the big rats go free. Neither group has the intellectual courage, and decency to compromise. Neither bunch even cares about something that is rational.

Dems talk about “fair”.

The GOP seems to think that the word “fair” is code for socialism. The term “fair” is no longer part of the conservative vernacular, which is quite disgusting when you think about it. And, nothing is “fair” about that.

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Perhaps a better term would be “equitable”. But, then that would require that we all pay the same percentage rate with no deductions. That would not be “fair” to the ultra wealthy among us who pay more than anyone else. Yea, they made more than anyone else. It stands to reason a person who makes $25,000,000 a year would pay more than someone making $25,000. But, that’s not fair, the far right complains.

Yes, someone who makes a pile of money pays more in taxes. If our far right Grover Norquist suck-ups would do what Tom Coburn has done, and tell him to take a hike, maybe we could do something equitable. But, that would mean that people making piles of money would be paying more than their “fair” share.

Evidently people like Norquist and his conservative slaves don’t comprehend that someone who makes a lot of money pays more taxes than someone who doesn’t – or they should. If they all pay the same percentage, say 15% with NO deductions, then we could be doing something.

Forget it.

Guardian

The UN views it as inequity.

The Guardian

It’s not really that at all. It’s all about something like 92,000 people who are basically getting a free ride. Because they have the means to secret their money in tax havens, they literally live off the fat of the land, getting away with what the rest of us can’t.

“...The report considers the impacts of a range of offshore abuses, including unreported capital flows and under-taxed corporate profits. It places considerable blame on big multinational banks and other financial institutions that are integral to the process of shifting money to offshore tax havens.

The “huge, secretive offshore industry has truly become the dark side of globalization,” the report concludes. It urges renewed efforts by developed countries to gain a handle on the problem.

But some tax experts – particularly conservatives – expressed skepticism at the size of the new estimate. Dan Mitchell, a senior fellow at the libertarian Cato Institute, compared the report’s findings to some estimates of climate change.

And Andrew Quinlan, president of the Center for Freedom and Prosperity, a group that promotes international tax competition and financial privacy, said, “Tax Justice Network and other opponents of tax competition assume that all earnings belong first to governments, which is why they seek to prevent even legal wealth management techniques if they result in less money for spend-happy politicians.”…”

Look, I don’t mind people figuring out how to beat the tax man.  It’s the American Way, but this way beyond that.

Let’s face it, Grover Norquist is the biggest welfare advocate in the country.  So are Americans for Tax Reform, Cato, Mitt Romney, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly, Laura Ingraham, and anyone else who can’t grasp what is going on here.

By allowing these 92,000 people (many of whom are Americans like Mitt) to get away with their off-shore accounts, they are literally on welfare. They are using the fruits of their welfare to pay for lobbyists to keep their welfare state.

So, we now have a Welfare Queen running for POTUS.  No wonder his little friends all want him to win. This isn’t about the budget, cutting spending, or revising tax codes.  Mittens and his little friends are all about maintaining their status as Billionaire Welfare Queens.

It makes perfect sense.

The Pink Flamingo thinks wealth is a wonderful thing.  It is something I would like to acquire.  Unfortunately, because of tax codes, life, and the IRS, most of us are barely going to be able to keep our heads above water.  It would be wonderful if Welfare Queen Grover Norquist could advocate for a 15% tax – with no deductions.  We the Little People might then have an opportunity to become wealthy.

The Welfare Queens, and their conservative Welfare Queen talking heads, are the biggest liberals of the bunch.  If they were true conservatives, they would want to amend the tax code to an equitable 15% or even 20% (I think 15% is enough).  They would do away with all deductions.

BUT – they can’t.  Because – they would end up paying more taxes, higher rates, than a small business person I know who ended up paying a $23,000 tax bill to the IRS for $5,000 in profit.

The real irony is these people, the Welfare Queens of the Right, are the ones who tell how patriotic they are, how they cherish the founding of this nation.  This nation was founded because of irrational taxes put on a nation – where the little people, paid more than the fat cats abroad.

You see how that ended.

So, who is the liberal now – looks like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham, Paul Ryan,  Grover Norquist, Jim DeMint, the Koch Brothers, and Mitt Romney are far bigger liberals than Barack Obama.

I love the little ironies of life, don’t you?

And so, these people are the ones who are breaking the world, impoverishing developing companies, and not paying their equitable share. In order to support their liberal welfare life style – former conservatives must prostitute themselves to Grover Norquist.

I love it!

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