UPDATED: The Anglo-Saxon POTUS?

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The Pink Flamingo has been watching the Romney apologists today.  Naturally, the Telegraph is “lying”. We all know that.  We all know it is a nasty little hit on Mitt Romney, who is absolutely perfect. The usual sources are defending Mittens.  Once upon a time, The Pink Flamingo read Legal Insurrection on a daily basis.  That was before William Jacobson’s historically ignorant hate filled campaign to destroy Elizabeth Warren.  Evidently he simply excels in historical ignorance.

Let’s face it, one would expect R. S. McCain, known bigot to have no problem with the way things went down with the quote.  He’s known for his support of Southern culture and Southern Heritage.  One must know the code words.  “Southern Heritage” is about bigotry.  Southern Culture is about the South.  There is a difference.

I like the comment from the Hinterland Gazette:

“...The Romney campaign is either stupid or oblivious to the fact that we have commonsense and can see through the bullshit. Just last week John Sununu, who happens to be a Cuban-born naturalized American citizen, saying Obama needs to learn to be an American. So, sorry, I don’t buy their flimsy excuse that these advisers don’t speak for the Romney campaign….”

National Review rushed to Romney’s defense with more ignorance and more of their usual racism.  The NRO now has a very bad habit of delving into racism and bigotry.

“...While the return of the bust of Churchill would be welcome, there is no such thing as “‘Anglo-Saxon’ understanding.” There are Anglo-Saxon values, to which one can subscribe or which one can reject — and many Anglo-Saxons disdain their historical values while many immigrants adore them. The advantage of America is that these values are strong enough that (almost) anyone can come here and assimilate with them if they so wish. One certainly does not need to be Anglo-Saxon or a WASP to be an American; one needs only to subscribe to values that were established by Anglo-Saxons and WASPs. Along with everybody else, Mitt Romney’s aides would do well to observe that distinction, for it’s crucial to the American idea….”

Kevin Drum puts some perspective into things.

“…I guess it’s nonetheless tempting to say that this is no more than Romney deserves, given his campaign’s continuing grim-faced mendacity over “you didn’t build that.” And in some cosmic sense, that’s true. But in every other sense it isn’t. This was, very slightly, a poor choice of words. Unless the Romneybots repeat it, that’s all it is….”

The problem is, after John Sununu’s comments about Obama, the Romney campaign has no credibility on the subject.  From Booman Tribune:

Booman Tribune

ORIGINAL POST:  To those of us who are historians, and specialize in Post Roman Britain, and are basically Norman, DON’T call us Anglo-Saxon.  Them’s fighin’ words. It’s an insult.  We’re Brits.  I’m basically a Brit.  The Anglo-Saxons were invaders.  They were the bad guys.  Those of us who are students of the Arthurian consider it even a greater insult. They were the invaders King Arthur fought.  Yes, I am well aware of the archaeological and historical mess here, but I am convinced there was an actual Arthur, perhaps several of them. I still think the first incarnation was Lucius Artorius Castus.

“…“Anglo-Saxon” in linguistics is still used as a term for the original West Germanic component of the modern English language, which was later expanded and developed through the influence of Old Norse and Norman French, though linguists now more often refer to it as Old English. In the 19th century the term “Anglo-Saxon” was broadly used in philology, and is sometimes so used at present. In Victorian Britain, some writers such as Robert Knox, James Anthony Froude, Charles Kingsley  and Edward A. Freeman used the term “Anglo-Saxon” to justify racism and imperialism, claiming that the “Anglo-Saxon” ancestry of the English made them racially superior to the colonised peoples. Similar racist ideas were advocated in the 19th Century United States by Samuel George Morton and George Fitzhugh.

The term “Anglo-Saxon” is sometimes used to refer to peoples descended or associated in some way with the English ethnic group. The definition has varied from time to time and varies from place to place. In contemporary Anglophone cultures outside the United Kingdom, the term is most commonly found in certain contexts, such as the term “White Anglo-Saxon Protestant” or “WASP”. Such terms are often politicised, and bear little connection to the precise ethnological or historical definition of the term “Anglo-Saxon”. It often encapsulates socio-economic identifiers more than ethnic ones…”

You can’t call Mitt Romney a WASP – White, Anglo-Saxon, Protestant, because he’s not a Protestant.  Other than that, he’s the whitest honky we’ve had running for POTUS since Reconstruction.  If you think The Pink Flamingo is alluding to racist overtones, you’re darn right I am.

While Mitt Romney was showing off is 1981 version of Cold War foreign policy, by visiting Poland, making a fool of himself with the Australians, and trying to re-start a cold war with Russia, one of his little associates was making an racist ass out of himself in London.

“…“We are part of an Anglo-Saxon heritage, and he feels that the special relationship is special,” the adviser said of Mr Romney, adding: “The White House didn’t fully appreciate the shared history we have”…”

A few of us have been noticing increasing racist over-tones in the Romney-tea party campaign.  John Sununu fired the opening racist shot against Obama – no wait, Rush Limbaugh did.

“…Former New Hampshire Gov. John H. Sununu, a prominent surrogate for presumptive GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney, said President Obama doesn’t understand “how the American system functions” because “he spent his early years in Hawaii smoking something.”

“He has no idea how the American system functions, and we shouldn’t be surprised about that, because he spent his early years in Hawaii smoking something, and spent the next set of years in Indonesia,” Sununu told Fox News on Tuesday. “And frankly, when he came to the U.S. he worked as a community organizer, which is a socialized structure, and then got into politics in Chicago. There has been no experience in his life in which he has earned a private sector paycheck that meant anything.”…”

TPM

Romney and his conservative apologists want everyone to think that anything government does is wrong. Sorry, but Obama is 100% correct about this.

“...Mitt Romney continued his assault on President Barack Obama Tuesday by saying ‘I’m convinced he wants Americans to be ashamed of success.’ Romney and his supporters, like former New Hampshire governor John Sununu, have been attacking the President after a campaign stop in Virginia last week where Obama said that a business’ success is not solely the product of it’s employees but also the government which helped the business thrive.

‘Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen,’ Obama said at the event….”

Only someone who is completely ignorant or racist refers to the British as “Anglo-Saxon”.  I consider myself, genealogically, to be a Brit. The only people I ever heard use the term “Anglo-Saxon” and not in a historical context (see below) were racist northerners who hated Blacks.  They proudly describe themselves as “WASPS” – WHITE Anglo-Saxon Protestant.

“…The comments were the latest attack by the Romney campaign on Obama’s multi-cultural heritage. Last week, Romney campaign co-chair John Sununu said Obama didn’t understand the “American system” because he “spent his early years in Hawaii smoking something, spent the next set of years in Indonesia.” Sununu also said Obama needed to “learn how to be an American.” (Sununu later apologizeD for that remark.) Later that day Romney called Obama’s policies “extraordinarily foreign.”…”

LGF

I’ve always considered them to be ignorant, Archie Bunkers of life.

TPM

Now, Mitt Romney’s genealogy, while part of the Presidential Line, is not all that good.  Trust me, I know my genealogy.  The Pink Flamingo is related to far more presidents, and far more founders than Romney.  I’m looking for British genealogy, and notable British ancestors.  While he is an Edward III descendant, his tree has far more branches than The Pink Flamingo’s.  Mine only has about 3 before you get to Edward III.  Romney doesn’t have much Norman blood in him.  Mine is a good 70%.

“…Researchers at the New England Historic Genealogical Society, founded in 1845, said Obama, the son of a white woman from Kansas and a black man from Kenya, can call six US presidents his cousins: both Bushes, Gerald Ford, Lyndon Johnson, Harry Truman and James Madison. The society, a non-profit organization, found he is also related to Churchill….”

Obama’s ancestry also connects into several old Virginia families, with excellent British connections.  I suspect his ancestry is far more “noble” than that of Romney.  Trust me, I know my genealogy.

How stupid can these people be?

“…Following the conquest, the Anglo-Saxon nobility were either exiled or joined the ranks of the peasantry. It has been estimated that only about 8 per cent of the land was under Anglo-Saxon control by 1087. Many Anglo-Saxon nobles fled to Scotland, Ireland, and Scandinavia. The Byzantine Empire became a popular destination for many Anglo-Saxon soldiers, as the Byzantines were in need of mercenaries. The Anglo-Saxons became the predominant element in the elite Varangian Guard, hitherto a largely Scandinavian unit, from which the emperor’s bodyguard was drawn and continued to serve the empire until the early 15th century. However, the population of England at home remained largely Anglo-Saxon; for them, little changed immediately except that their Anglo-Saxon lord was replaced by a Norman lord….”

There’s one other little fact that is missing here.  The royal Saxon lines (of which Alfred was one) were descended from a rather fascinating line of individuals who go back to the Russian Steppes. The names who come into the line are the stuff of myth and legend, but to classify them as “Anglo-Saxon” is historically incorrect.  It is IGNORANT.

Genealogically, the British people have far more Norman – Norse -Viking – in them than they do Anglo-Saxon.  The importance of Anglo-Saxon is the development of the English (Anglish) language, which is a conglomeration of Germanic, Romance, Celtic, and Norman.

“…The Norman and French conquest of England was the invasion and conquest of England by an army of Normans and French led by Duke William II of Normandy. William, who defeated King Harold II of England on 14 October 1066 at the Battle of Hastings, was crowned as king on Christmas Day 1066. He then consolidated his control over England and settled many of his followers in England, introducing a number of governmental and societal changes to medieval England.

William’s claim to the English throne derived from his familial relationship with the childless King Edward the Confessor, who may have encouraged William’s hopes for the throne. But when Edward died in January 1066, he was succeeded by his brother-in-law Harold, who not only faced challenges from William but also another claim by the Norwegian king, Harald Hardrada. Hardrada invaded northern England in September 1066, winning a victory at the Battle of Fulford before being defeated and killed by King Harold at the Battle of Stamford Bridge on 25 September 1066. William, however, had landed in southern England, and Harold quickly marched south to confront William, leaving many of his forces behind in the north. On 14 October Harold’s army confronted William’s invaders near Hastings and after an all day battle, was defeated and killed.

Although William’s main rivals were gone, he still faced a number of rebellions over the following years, and it was not until after 1072 that he was secure on his throne. English resistance led to a number of the English elite having their lands confiscated and some of them went into exile abroad. In order to control his new kingdom, William gave lands to his followers and built castles throughout the land to control military strong points. Other changes included the introduction of French as the language, and changes in the composition of the upper classes. How far the conquest changed the lower reaches of society is unclear, but the main change appears to have been the elimination of slavery, which may or may not have been linked to the invasion. There was little change in the structure of government, with the new Norman administrators taking over many of the forms of Anglo-Saxon government….”

Is this how Mitt Romney plans to govern if he were to be elected POTUS, from a basis of racist and historical ignorance?

Everything we are today, as a nation, is NORMAN, created, invented, evolving from the actions of NORMAN kings like Henry II. From Henry, a NORMAN, came Common Law, courts, trial by jury, innocent until proven guilty.  Because of the incompetence of his youngest son, we have the basis of the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence – the Great Charter.

As for Romney’s wretchedly ignorant advisers, God Help Us All.

How long to we put up with these ignorant, historically compromised, racist bigots who have taken over the GOP?

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3 thoughts on “UPDATED: The Anglo-Saxon POTUS?

  1. You seem to be unaware of Senator Jim Webb’s book on this very topic, Born Fighting, which goes into a fair amount of historical detail. I don’t recall that he got called out with this kind of “OMFG RAAAAACIST!” screaming and hollering at the time – of course, him being a Democrat might have a wee bit to do with that, no?

    Also, to characterize the staff of NRO as racist is either ignorant of the diverse staff there or just gratuitous stone-throwing at people whose opinions you don’t like. I’ll be charitable and assume you’re being ignorant.

  2. “he doesn’t understand how the American system functions..” Yes, he does. His statement violates a general rule of thumb of the amateur: Any person who nows how to take something apart generally knows how it works. How do you think SWAT and other experts know how to disarm if they don’t know how the thing works for which they’re disarming?

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