“…It is hate speech. It is no different from the anti-Semitic garbage that has been all too common in Western Christian history. It is sub-Christian – beneath the dignity of anyone with a functioning moral compass….”
The far right is screaming and yelling about freedom of speech when it comes to the incendiary clip from a movie that insults at least half the people on the planet. They think it is perfectly lovely, perfectly acceptable to publish material that will get people killed. Oh, sure, it’s legal. It’s Constitutional. They have every right to do it. In fact, the Constitution will even back them, no matter how many people they kill, how much damage it does, and how many American troops are put in even more danger. We must support their rights, no matter how many people die.
“…Yesterday, while compiling evidence for a report demonstrating conclusively that the 501(c)(3) nonprofit Media For Christ was the most significant force behind the production of the anti-Islamic trailer video “Innocence of the Muslims” which, after being posted on Youtube, has helped incite riots throughout the Islamic world, I came upon the following February 12, 2012 post, on the website of Atlas Shrugs — the blog of Pamela Geller, the anti-Islamic activist who cofounded the group Stop Islamization of Nations and helped incite and organize the nationally-notorious June 6, 2010 protest against the building of a mosque in lower Manhattan (one of the speakers at the protest was Joseph Nassralla Abdelmasih, head of Media For Christ.)
Titled “A Movie about Muhammad: An Idea whose Time Has Come”, the Geller post contained a solicitation for funding for a movie about Muhammad.
Pamela Geller’s Atlas Shrugs post introduced the financial solicitation with, “Ali Sina, renowned ex-Muslim author, founder of FaithFreedom.org and SION Board member, has a brilliant idea, a plan, to educate and liberate those enslaved by the most radical and extreme ideology on the face of the earth, but he needs our help” [see footnote for background on Ali Sina, including his comparisons of Barack Obama to Hitler]. Then followed Ali Sina’s solicitation:…”
I don’t know about you, but it seems to The Pink Flamingo, that “careless” talk is exactly what took the lives of four good Americans last week. No, even during World War II, such actions were not illegal. BUT, people were smart enough to understand that such actions cost lives. Today, it’s rather obvious that lives mean nothing, as long as they get to prove they were right. How right can it be when people die, needlessly?
The same group who was once law and order, who wanted tougher sentences for parole violators are now defending the very act of violating parole. It’s about free speech.
I agree with Bill Press
“...I think they are as guilty as the terrorists who carried out those attacks against our embassy in Libya. Look, we don’t know everybody who was involved, but we’ve seen, I’ve seen some of them on television. This is a group of extremist, Muslim-hating, so-called Christians in southern California who are using their religion to stir up hatred against Islam. They’re basing this on their Christian beliefs. They are, I believe, every bit as guilty as al Qaeda members who, think about it, who use the Koran and abuse their religion to stir up hatred against the United States. These so-called Christians, anybody who uses religion to stir up hate, is not a true believer. And certainly Christians who do so are not true Christians….”
Unfortunately, it took an article from the Daily Kos to remind The Pink Flamingo of how active a campaign was waged during World War II to promote American based propaganda and to prevent the enemy from getting ahead in the world.
Ever heard of Lose Lips Sink Ships?
During World War I and World War II, evidently people were a little smarter than we are today. They realized that there were limits to what one should say and could say. In other words, our parents and grandparents were a heck of a lot wiser than we are today. Evidently the Greatest Generation also had some common sense. There were things that you were to leave unsaid and undone.
“…Spencer is the director of Jihad Watch, a program of David Horowitz’s Freedom Center. Spencer and Geller founded Stop Islamization of America (SIOA), an affiliate of Stop Islamization of Europe and a project of their American Freedom Defense Initiative (AFDI). The AFDI is the sponsor of anti-Muslim advertisements on buses in Manhattan and San Francisco. Spencer and Geller describe their inflammatory activism as being “pro-Israel,” although they have no doubt alienated many supporters of Israel. Sources, including a 2011 Slate article, counted the references to Geller, Spencer, and their collaborators in the writings of Norway’s mass killer Anders Breivik, and found them cited over 250 times….”
“…As journalist Max Blumenthal declared, in a Thursday September 13 Guardian story about the Innocence of the Muslims video trailer, “Produced and promoted by a strange collection of rightwing Christian evangelicals and exiled Egyptian Copts, the trailer was created with the intention of both destabilizing post-Mubarak Egypt and roiling the US presidential election.” But in light of the relationship between Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, and Joseph Nassralla Abdulmasih, we may need to add another anti-Islamic faction to that “strange collection”….”
How about this?
“...SILENCE MEANS SECURITY — If violation of protective measures is serious within written communications it is disastrous in conversations. Protect your conversation as you do your letters, and be even more careful. A harmful letter can be nullified by censorship; loose talk is direct delivery to the enemy.
If you come home during war your lips must remain sealed and your written hand must be guided by self-imposed censorship. This takes guts. Have you got them or do you want your buddies and your country to pay the price for your showing off. You’ve faced the battle front; its little enough to ask you to face this ‘home front.’ …”
It is hate speech. Just because the practitioners of Islam do not react the way we “civilized” Americans do, is no reason to doubt that they have feelings, sensitivities, and became angry. They have a right two with what has happened this week. It is hate speech, pure and simple. Hate is hate.
“...Meanwhile, many who are pastors and leaders in evangelicalism hide their heads in the current issue of Christianity Today or World Magazine, acting as if the kinds of people who host Islamophobic sentiments swim in a tiny sidestream, not in the mainstream, of our common heritage. I wish that were true.
The events of this past week, if we let them, could mark a turning point – a hitting bottom, if you will – in the complicity of evangelicalism in Islamophobia. If enough evangelicals watch or try to watch the film trailer that has sparked such outrage in the Middle East, they may move beyond the tipping point.
I tried to watch it, but I couldn’t make it halfway to the 13-minute mark. Everything about it was tawdry, pathetic, even pornographic. All but the most fundamentalist believers from my evangelical Christian tribe who watch that video will be appalled and ashamed to be associated with it.
It is hate speech. It is no different from the anti-Semitic garbage that has been all too common in Western Christian history. It is sub-Christian – beneath the dignity of anyone with a functioning moral compass.
Islamophobic evangelical Christians – and the neo-conservative Catholics and even some Jewish folks who are their unlikely political bedfellows of late – must choose.
Will they press on in their current path, letting Islamophobia spread even further amongst them? Or will they stop, rethink and seek to a more charitable approach to our Muslim neighbors? Will they realize that evangelical religious identity is under assault, not by Shariah law, not by the liberal media, not by secular humanism from the outside, but by forces within the evangelical community that infect that religious identity with hostility?
If I could get one message through to my evangelical friends, it would be this: The greatest threat to evangelicalism is evangelicals who tolerate hate and who promote hate camouflaged as piety.
No one can serve two masters. You can’t serve God and greed, nor can you serve God and fear, nor God and hate….”
Max Blumenthal wrote:
“...For far-right Christian right activists like Klein, the attacks on American interests abroad seemed likely to advance their ambitions back in the US. With Americans confronted with shocking images of violent Muslims in Egypt and Libya on the evening news, their already negative attitudes toward their Muslim neighbors were likely to harden. In turn, the presidential candidates, Obama and Romney, would be forced to compete for who could take the hardest line against Islamic “terror”.
A patrician moderate constantly on the defensive against his own right flank, Romney fell for the bait, baselessly accusing Obama of “sympathiz[ing] with those who waged the attacks” and of issuing “an apology for America’s values”. The clumsy broadside backfired in dramatic fashion, opening Romney to strident criticism from across the spectrum, including from embarrassed Republican members of Congress. Obama wasted no time in authorizing a round of drone strikes on targets across Libya, which are likely to deepen regional hostility to the US.
A group of fringe extremists had proven that with a little bit of money and an unbelievably cynical scam, they could shape history to fit their apocalyptic vision. But in the end, they were not immune to the violence they incited.
According to Copts Today, an Arabic news outlet focusing on Coptic affairs, Sadek was seen taking a leisurely stroll down Washington’s M Street on September 11, soaking in the sun on a perfect autumn day. All of a sudden, he found himself surrounded by four angry Coptic women. Berating Sadek for fueling the flames of sectarian violence, the women took off their heels and began beating him over the head….”
The Pink Flamingo is reminded of something my grandfather Reidhead always said. “Just go ahead and have your own lousy way and make everyone hate you.” I think that basically describes the far right. They’re getting their own way, but making everyone hate all of us.
Then comes the news that just puts it all into perspective.
“…The Way TV includes a show hosted by Steve Klein called “Wake Up America.” Klein has told press that he “consulted” on “The Innocence of Muslims” movie, but denied to the press that Media for Christ produced the film. Klein and others have pointed to a “Sam Bacile” as director of the film, apparently a fictitious name. See the SPLC’s report on Steve Klein.
Klein, Nasralla, and Gary Cass are partners in an anti-Muslim student outreach effort titled 911 Defend Our Students, which has included handing out fliers to students as they leave their schools. A Christian Newswire press release describes the program in the words of Cass… Cass, former executive director of James Kennedy’s Reclaiming America for Christ, co-founded the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission with General William S. Hollis. Projects have included a series of videos titled “Seven Reasons Barack Obama is not a Christian.” The advisory board includes Matt Staver, Rick Scarborough, Lou Sheldon, Dick Bott, Ted Baehr, Don Wildmon, Leslee Unruh, and other Religious Right luminaries. Cass is one of the “Broadcast Celebrities of The Third Rail, along with Gen. William “Jerry” Boykin, Larry Pratt, and other “veteran patriots.”…”
This is NOT about Islam. It is not about telling the world what is going on. It is about going after Barack Obama, embarrassing his administration, and trying to get Mitt Romney elected. I thought so from the beginning. When I saw the above list of some of the “usual” suspects, it is as obvious as a blinking hot pink flamingo neon sign.
This is also about Pam Geller and Robert Spencer being in the middle of something, to promote themselves. I bet money one or the other of them has a book on the way.
“…The strange political alliances that are forming, and the inherent contradictions in these alliances, could be seen this past March when Geller and Robert Spencer cancelled the premiere of “Islam Rising,” a movie about Geert Wilders, because of the virulent anti-gay stance of the organization producing the movie, Christian Action Network. The movie premiered in Washington D.C. on May 1, at the Congressional Canon Caucus Room on Capitol Hill in conjunction with the prayer rally Mayday 2010: A Cry to God for a Nation in Distress. Billboards advertising the movie have been placed on I-26 in South Carolina.
The New Jersey Jewish News has heralded the European far Right as becoming philo-Semitic. The article was subtitled “Old hatreds fading as nationalists turn anger against Muslims.” The article cited as study done by Matthew Bunzl which included examples of the far Right embracing Jews and becoming “pro-Israel” in Austria and Belgium. Bunzl clarified that he “could not stomach that the far Right has come to love Jews because they hate Muslims.”
I would argue that the belief that the far Right now loves Jews is delusional. However, they are quite happy to use those Jewish leaders who are shortsighted enough to help destroy secular democracies and religious pluralism due to their fixation on Islam.
Phyllis Chesler, (and also Brigitte Gabriel and Robert Spencer), has been a contributor to Family Security Matters, including the article “The Islamization of America.” According to Source Watch, FSM is a front for the Center for Security Policy formed in 2003 to appeal to American women. FSM was also the source of a August 2007 article on the drawbacks of democracy by Philip Atkinson, removed after an outcry from both conservatives and liberals. …”
So, once again, we are left with a gathering of the usual sources. The usual sources always gather for one reason only: MONEY.
There is a bottom line here. This is NOT about Freedom of Speech, the First Amendment, or even trying to insult Muslims. This is about trying to humiliate Barack Obama and help Mitt Romney get elected. No matter what happens in the wild and wacky world of the far right, when you have a gathering of the usual suspects, please, expect the papa cow excreta to hit the fan.
In an earlier post, The Pink Flamingo said that Pam Geller and Robert Spencer would be at the top of my list of who was involved in this, except for one thing – money. Someone had to spend a couple a’ million bucks to get this done. I’m not sure if they could raise that much. Sure, the pockets of their brainwashed followers are deep, but I don’t know if they are that deep. Then again, if they’re tapping in to evangelical money, the sky’s the limit.
These people have the will, the contacts, and the malice to accompany something like this. The Pink Flamingo just does not think they have the money to pull it off, all the way. Someone had to be helping them, if, indeed, they were involved.
This is sooooo not about Freedom of Speech, religions persecution, or the First Amendment. It is about a group of extremists in this country figuring out how to get their enemy to murder for them, to promote their agenda. For those who say “Christians” don’t kill, no, they get someone to do their killing for them.
I go back to my original question: Who was in back of all of this?
And, I reiterate – someone needs to go to jail for this. At best it is a crime of hate against a group of people. At worst it is murder. It has screwed up our foreign policy. But then – isn’t that the whole point?