“…”Men, leaders, women, until we value women and girls, we won’t tackle those other problems. Until we prioritize our girls and understand that they are important and that their education is as important as the education of our sons, then we will have lots of work to do.” Michelle Obama
One of the problems of these godly men is that they don’t think there is anything wrong with the abuse of women.
Maybe our problem is the fact that we ascribe basic hatred of women to the so-called men’s movement, and they flaunt their hatred by demanding to be given back the rights we evil women took away from them. I don’t know about you, but I haven’t tried taking anything away from any man. On the other hand, I’ve had to deal with the fact that men want to take from me, personal, financial, career, my entire life. One of the rather fascinating aspects to all of this, is if you start researching the beta males who want to turn into chest beating alphas, you start finding that they are usually libertarian, ultra religious, filled with conspiracy theories, and just don’t have what it takes to compete in the real world. So, they blame women for their problems. It’s easier than facing reality and growing up.
“...Bill said (May 2, 2012): Why should I give up my seat for a woman? Why is a woman more valuable than a man? Seriously, I do not understand that. What if we turned that around and insisted that women honor men by opening doors for us and giving up their seats for us for the next century or so to make up for all we have done for them in the past?
The Western World has quietly become a civilization that undervalues men and overvalues women, where the state forcibly transfers resources from men to women creating various perverse incentives for otherwise good women to conduct great evil against men and children, and where male nature is vilified but female nature is celebrated. This is unfair to both genders, and is a recipe for a rapid civilizational decline and displacement, the costs of which will ultimately be borne by a subsequent generation of innocent women, rather than men, as soon as 2020.
I am seriously fed up with women treating me like crap and telling me how to be a REAL MAN. Who died and left them boss? I am not interested in “honoring” them. I will be polite to them, but I do not trust any of them. Frankly, that goes for men too – until they prove themselves trustworthy.
Furthermore, I am a survivor of DV (Domestic Violence). All DV is wrong! VAWA (Violence Against Women Act) is probably the most bigoted misandric piece of legislation (trash) ever devised. The latest US Center Disease Control clearly show that 53% of all DV victims are male. Yet, we are not permitted to protect men in the same manner that we protect women! Why? Because it is not Politically Correct to acknowledge and/or discuss the clear fact that women are also perpetrators of DV. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lHmCN3MBMI
Men need protection from violent women. VAWA excludes men……”
In other words, this beta male was caught being abusive to his spouse and she cleaned him. Fascinatingly, there are studies that suggest one of the reasons the US has such a strong culture of violence is because of this idiotic requirement of fake masculinity.
“…The issue of masculinity and its link to criminal behavior in men has been identified in both past and present discussions of criminological thought. An early attempt to link masculinity with crime came from Parsons (1964). Parsons purported masculinity was internalized during adolescence, which led to boys engaging in more delinquent behavior than girls (Parsons, 1964). Sutherland also discussed elements of masculinity when stating that boys are taught to be “rough and tough,” which makes them more likely to become delinquent (Sutherland and Cressey, 1924). Cloward and Ohlin’s (1960) differential opportunity theory is also relevant to discussions of masculinity. They propose that younger gang members learn both legitimate and illegitimate behaviors from older male role models. Common masculine traits such as toughness and dominance, which are considered necessary in order to assert a strong masculine reputation, are learned through this contact with older males (Cloward and Ohlin, 1960).
Switching to a more current examination, Miedzian (1991) examines the socialization, peer pressure, media, and military influences that lead to violence being an acceptable behavior in men. Taking a similar route, in a qualitative examination of dating violence, Thompson (1991:275) found that men with more masculine gender orientations were more likely to be involved in violent exchanges. Additional research linking violence and masculinity includes an analysis of episodes of violence found in film and media, as well as in sporting events (Wilson and Daly, 1985; Gruneau and Whitson, 1993; Weinstein, et al., 1995). Common to these examinations, is the use of the term masculinity without an operationalized definition, and although the link between violence and masculinity is routinely proposed it is rarely empirically examined….”
There is an implied thread of violence that has made its way through the entire neo-Calvinist, Christian Reconstruction movement. John Calvin was a narcissist psychopath who basically murdered (in the name of God) at will. His terror practices are envied by Rushdoony, and Gary North, who is using them to plan the over-throw of our secular government and install one like John Calvin had in Geneva. That’s the very real problem here. The violence against women, thuggish behavior is implied by Mark Driscoll. Just the term ‘submission’ has implications of violence if a woman does not do what her godly man demands she do.
“…“If it’s [the abuse] not requiring her to sin but simply hurting her, then I think she endures verbal abuse for a season, and she endures perhaps being smacked one night, and then she seeks help from the church.”…” John Piper
Did you know there is a difference between Biblical Manhood and Cultural Manhood?
“…Manhood is being attacked on two major fronts in our culture. First, feminism seeks to eliminate all distinctions and authority. “Women can do everything that men can do” they shout. But, just because they can doesn’t mean that they should or that it is right. [My wife is super smart (smarter than me) and extremely talented at organizing and leading. Yet, she understands God’s call on both of our lives to submit to the roles for which He has made us.] Secondly, biblical manhood is under attack by an attitude of “Machoism”. It defines masculinity by thoughts and actions outside of the Bible. Basically it says “Men are better than women” (though they would rarely say it aloud). And, either you like sports, hunting, fishing, fast cars, etc. or else you’re not a real man. This leads to stupid analogies that end up judging masculinity by physical strength, bodily functions, eating capacity, and anatomical structure….”
There is another, very logical reason why insignificant, pathetic but godly men are basically nothing more that patriarchal members of the he-man-woman-hating-club, complete with chest-beating, pissing, belching, scratching, and measuring well, you figure out what. One of the very serious problems with the world of Christian Reconstruction is that it has bred at least two generations of men who are abjectly bust-heads, incapable of even working in a business where they might be forced to come into contact with a woman and take orders from her.
“...Another is women’s financial freedom. In 1970, women represented only 43.3% of women of the labor force, compared to 55.8% today. Moreover, the recession in America has been a tremendous blow to men in traditionally masculine jobs such as construction and manufacturing; 82% of job losses affect men. Right now in the U.S. many families find themselves economically dependent on one working parent: Mom. Over 70% of mothers have jobs outside the home. No longer as reliant on men’s genes or jobs to ensure the health and wealth of their children, women may come to value other qualities in a mate. It may become evolutionarily adaptive to prefer men who are cooperative, communicative, caring and better parents over traditional “manly men.”…”
This one paragraph probably does more to explain the problem with godly Christian manly men than even they understand. They have been brought up in R. J. Rushdoony’s cult, brainwashed by Bill Gothard, and preached too by FOX News, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, and manipulated by Gary North via Ron Paul. They are libertarian bust- heads who have been taught that godly men stand on their own two feet, don’t borrow money, and must pay off their debts, even when it basically causes hardship for their family, thanks to Gothard and Dave Ramsey. Their power is growing, politically, by the week. They are to be feared.