UPDATE: First, just to make myself clear, the title is sarcastic. It is also ‘true’ in that there are those in the Duggar universe who do, indeed, think that being gay is far worse than being a pedophile. I think we’re starting to see a little of this, already. In his patriarchal world, because he is male, he is far more important than his sisters. Because he is male, and now the head of his own family, his community considers the father God’s representative to the family. His sisters were/are far less important than he is, within his little world.
ORIGINAL POST: Josh Duggar is not gay. It’s okay, he’s just an alleged pedophile who has allegedly molested 4 of his sisters. But, he’s not gay. He likes girls. When he was 14 he molested a few girls. He also resigned from the Family Research Council on Thursday as news of his tendencies finally found their way out of the closet. He told his parents what he had done and receive counseling. He stated if he were to continue down that path of pedophilia, he would have ruined his life.
There are so many things wrong with that statement, including the fact that he was looking after himself, and could have cared less about the girls he molested. He was 14. He was a minor. I heard that one of the girls who was not his sister was 13. That isn’t even statutory rape. From TMZ:
“..There was another reported incident 9 months later. According to the police report, the police were not immediately contacted. Instead, Jim Bob, the dad, met with church elders and agreed Josh should be put in a treatment program. The police report says Josh’s mom, Michelle, said it wasn’t really a treatment center … they simply sent Josh to a guy who was remodeling a building to do manual labor.
In 2006, the family was scheduled to appear on “Oprah,” and before the show someone sent an email to Harpo warning that Josh had molested girls. Harpo forwarded the email to a hotline, which triggered a police investigation….”
I never use Breitbart, but I found something: Jim Bob consulted with a former state trooper, and close personal friend, Jim Hutchens, about the situation. Hutchens is now doing 56 years in prison for child pornography. Josh then allegedly molested 4 of his sisters.
“…Named after Shakespeare’s young lovers, “Romeo and Juliet” exceptions are intended to prevent serious criminal charges against teenagers who engage in consensual sex with others close to their own age. In Arkansas, there is a Romeo and Juliet exemption for consensual sex between minors who are close in age; and even when one party is a minor, but the defendant is fewer than seven (or ten) years older than the minor (discussed above)….”
Before the world goes insane, he had just turned 14 when this happened. He was a minor. He did some touching and looking. He was 14 years old.
The reason nothing happened is because he did not break any laws…so far. In fact, in the state of Arkansas, he did not even commit incest. He was a child. He doesn’t even classify as a pedophile or a child molester, or incest. But, because he is a Duggar, there is no compassion for his situation, and, damn it, compassion is needed. Because, his life will break one of two ways.
1. At first, when I read this, I automatically assumed Josh was/is the victim of child molestation. When a kid is 14 and molests his sisters, you can almost automatically assume he was molested as a child. A huge red flag is waving in my face when I learned that one of Jim-Bob’s formerly good buds is doing a half century in the big house for child pornography. Don’t worry, I’m not ruling any of this out, at this time.
2. The Duggars are disciples of Bill Gothard who is one of the most sexually repressed perverts out there. And – he is a documented pervert. Young people who are raised in his truly disgusting educational programs don’t have access to real sex education, let alone television, or the other normal things a normal family has, like various and sundry publications which would satisfy the growing curiosity of a young Josh Duggar who lives in a household where his parents are constantly – well you know – in order to have way too many children. Curious, he doesn’t even have access to a National Geographic to satisfy his normal curiously. His normal curiosity about the anatomy of the opposite sex would have been declared ‘dirty’.
But, to read the Twitter feed, the guy is filthy evil. Now, these are the same individuals who defended Kaitlyn Hunt, are damning Josh Duggar. I am far from defending him. I think it is sad and disgusting what he did, but he did not stalk, nor commit statutory rape. BUT…. there is one difference, a striking and profound difference. Kate Hunt portrayed herself as a victim against the very organization Josh Duggar once represented. Where he made his very big mistake was not being gay. His other big mistake is the fact that he comes from a ‘Christian’ family. Granted, they are kooks, and I don’t think they believe the same things as I do, but he’s openly a Christian. Ergo, he should be and will be destroyed for being a Christian and anti-gay. He worked for a hate-group. He is pure, dripping evil.
Yes, there is a glaring double standard here. I suspect the sins of Josh Duggar are far less than those of Kaitlyn Hunt, but we don’t know right now. I also suspect both were molested as children. With the Hunts, pick one from Column A or Column B. With Josh Duggar, the monster in the closet is far more insidious. Sure a young person can do what he did out of abject curiosity, but, let’s be honest here, this guy was most likely molested as a child. Having been molested by my third grade principal, my heart aches for what I think happened to him. BUT – he did not need to act out and join the ranks of abusers. That’s the question. Did he abuse?
His parents abused the system. They manipulated it. His father was friends and confided in a man who is going to spend the rest of his life in prison for child pornography. Yes, I know what you are thinking. So am I. Social services should have been brought in to evaluate the family. They were not. Instead, like all good little patriarchal Bill Gothard brainwashed cultists, they went to the elders of their church. No, this is not where I begin ranting about the tip of the iceberg pedophile scandals which have yet to even surface within the Baptist and Evangelical communities. Instead, let’s just think about how Bill Gothard controls the Duggars. He is literally the most powerful person in this country’s history. His agenda is now the agenda of the GOP. It is an agenda of narrow-minded, heretical perversion of the teachings of Christ. And yes, I suspect the person the Duggars called in to deal with their sinner child was Gothard.
Kate Hunt has managed to get on with her life – we hope. She is cute, pretty, pert, blond, and claims to be a lesbian, or at least bi. She had no claim to being a Christian. So, that’s in her favor. Because she claimed to be a lesbian, her cause was adopted by good liberals everywhere. Because the child she molested and stalked, violating numerous court orders came from a Christian background, her parents were treated like dirt.
There is a double standard in this country. It is getting worse every day. If a person is openly a Christian, it is license for them to be treated like dirt. If Josh Duggar were an atheist, he would now be a cause celeb. He says he’s a Christian.
Frankly, I find the Duggar family creepy. I’ve always thought were were incestuous over-tones in the family, the way Jim Bob discussed sex with his daughters and their fiances before they were married. It was disgusting. There is something repulsive about the family, and it isn’t because they are anti-gay. But, in all fairness, Josh Duggar needs to be given the same benefit of the doubt by the same liberals who embraced the cause of Kate Hunt. Fat chance that.
Oh, geez, when a 14-year-old boy plays hot and heavy with a 13-year-old girl in the state of Arkansas, it is considered “Romeo & Juliette”. It is not illegal. I think that’s a reasonable law. No children that age need to be playing hot and heavy, let alone anything else, but to have a child listed as a sex offender for the rest of his/her life is far more criminal. We know Josh did this. That’s life.
What is truly disturbing is the fact that he evidently repeatedly did the same thing with 4 of his sisters. I’m sorry, but this reeks of something seriously wrong in that family. It is a given that Jim Bob would go to the godly elders of his church. They would handle the situation and keep the cops out of it. This is SOP for that bunch. BUT – when you have a child who is doing this to 4 of your daughters, what the hell kind of parent would even allow the kid to remain in their home? He fondled his sisters. A kid fondles his sisters because there is a pedophile in the woodwork in or around his or her home.
And so, Josh says that he realized doing this sort of thing would mess up his life. There was no regret for what he did. The family had no compassion for the girls. He had no compassion or regret for the girls – only himself. Yea, there’s a word for that: sociopath. They’re made, not born. I suspect he was made into one, by someone close to home.
Can’t anyone cry for this young man? What we’re going to see is the circling of the wagons in some groups, and the damnation of the young man in another. Neither side will be right. Those who condemned Kate Hunt are most likely going to defend Josh Duggar. Those who defended Kate Hunt will damn Josh Duggar. Both are tragic figures. I fear, though, Kate Hunt might have a better outcome than this young man will. At least those of us who felt what Kate Hunt did was wrong, have had the grace (many of us) to also have compassion for. Those of us who are Christians have been quite open about praying for she and her family. Let’s be honest here, those who defended Kate Hunt are going to do their very best to destroy Josh Duggar. While I do think certain liberal causes are well worth embracing, one thing I have a very difficult time dealing with is the unrelenting hatred of Christians by a certain segment. And no, they’re not atheists. A good atheist isn’t going to hate. These people are something else entirely. They disgust me as much as white supremacists disgust me. Frankly, they are no different. Hate is hate. Period.
UPDATE: After I wrote the original post, several developments have occurred. The judge handling the case had destroyed all the records of what happened, due, to the alleged protection of the minor children. They were all minors. Also, when I wrote the post, the allegations that four sisters were molested was rumor only. We now know the rumor to be true. What the 14-year-old Josh Duggar did was vile and horrible. I will reiterate that, in the state of Arkansas, it was not illegal. I did not say it was not criminal, evil, nor horrific. I stated that it was not illegal.
The ‘so-called’ molestation of the girl who was his age, may or may not have been molestation. I suspect it was ‘Romeo & Juliette’ which is also legal in the state of Arkansas. While ‘fondling’ was alleged, without actual penetration, there is one fascinating little aspect of the entire time line. Why did Jim Bob wait 9 months to report the incident?
What’s more, why is no one connecting the dots here? What takes 9 months? His little sisters, who were alleged to have been molested were too young to produce a baby. But, the girl who was Josh’s age was not. Quite frankly, I suspect the cover-up is to hide the Duggar’s first grandchild.
I stand by my comments about the rank hypocrisy about the incident being used to once again damn Christians. This sort of thing does not occur in a vacuum. Let’s face it, I don’t know about you, but I’m almost ashamed to sometimes admit that I am a Christian – because of the hate machine spawned by the likes of the Duggars and Bill Gothard. They deserve the nastiness tossed at them. They are everything that is bad about so-called Christians. And, they make it very difficult for the rest of us. Yes, there has been a very dramatic up-tick in the hatred of Christians in this country. In many ways, it is not undeserved. And, yes, there is a double standard when it comes to what happened to Kate Hunt.
I still cannot grasp the fact that the Duggars did not report the incident, immediately. We all know why the records were burned. Jim Bob is a big-shot in the Arkansas GOP. There is a heck of a lot of money out there, to spread around, and bribe whoever needs to be bribed. Don’t ever think this is not what happened.
What Kate Hunt did, legally, was far worse than what Josh Duggar did, primarily because she was no longer a minor when she did it. If the Duggars had not been ‘rich’ and powerful, well-placed in Arkansas politics, and budding television sensations, trust me, social services would have stepped in and taken the children away from them. Can you say 19 Foster Homes and Counting? Josh would have been put in a facility where he could have received the proper treatment for what he did, and for the fact that he was obviously molested as a child. If you look at the Arkansas laws, there basically are none which apply to what Josh did, because of his age.
Please, don’t make the mistake of thinking what went on with the Duggars is rare in their circles. It is but the tip of the iceberg. Because of the way their world is situated, don’t expect other victims of pedophiles to receive any sort of help, either. My other concern is that this becomes a test case in how to allow your children to have been molested, become molesters themselves, and get away with it.
And yes, I have a tremendous amount of compassion for Josh Duggar. If he had not been molested as a child, he would not have done what he did. I cannot imagine dealing with a family where the cop brought in to ‘investigate’ the case is into child pornography.
Was the cop part of the Gothard world?